From: honig@buckaroo.ICS.UCI.EDU (David Honig)Subject: Updated LSD FAQMessage-ID: <9408091330.aa03614@paris.ics.uci.edu>Newsgroups: alt.drugsDate: 9 Aug 94 20:30:57 GMTThe following large (200K) file is the updated LSD FAQ incorporatingvarious posts that I've collected since this faq first came out.There is a "Changes" section near the top.  This also containsinfo on other tryptamine psychedelics, viz. DMT and psilocybin.(c) 1994 The reproduction for nonprofit use of this file is encouraged.		The Usenet alt.drugs LSD FAQLast Update: 9 Aug 94    Subject: LSD       Size: Now 200K, 80K gzip'dFormatting Info:       topic break:	******************************within-topic break:	..............................Special DMT FAQ insert: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++******************************	Caveat:[NB: This FAQ provided to reduce the Net's bandwidth / confusion /misinformation, as an informational resource ONLY.  There are somevery informed, and some very clueless people on the Net.  ThisFAQ tries to shift the balance.  The truth shall set you free,as they say.]******************************	Changes since Previous Version- added synthesis notes, MAPS- merged misc. files and references, organizations, the baseballstory, recipes I'm not competent to judge- added scholarly section on creativity- include more info on related active tryptamine derivatives- traded off half-a-decibel of signal-to-noise for wider scope- added mycological horticultural note- added postscript stereoimage of structure******************************	Synopsis / Table of Contents:LSD 		(definition, introduction)Delysid 	(medical fact sheet for pharmaceutical LSD) (pharmacology)	Cautions, Real And Imagined:Addiction Potential (none)Adulterants 	(including the strychnine myth, manufacturing impurities, etc.)Bad Trips 	(what they are, how to avoid, what to do)Myths 		(stamps for children, staring at the sun..)Dangers 	(LSD isn't for morons...)Flashbacks 	(what they are ---post-traumatic stress syndrome)Insomnia 	(common, what to do)Tolerance 	(aquired and lost quickly (3 days) harmlessly, no withdrawal)	Backround:Anthropology 		(and history)Botany 			(sources in nature: mushrooms, ergot, morning glories,				hawaiian baby woodrose, tropical plants)Chemistry 		(structure)Mechanism of Action 	(uncertain)Related Compounds 	(indoles: psilocybin, DiMethylTryptamine (DMT) )Manufacture 		(forget it)Drug Testing 	 	(don't worry)Legal Scheduling (sched. 1, no medical uses in US (despite past effective use))	Pragmatics:Set and Setting 	(how to have a positive experience; lsd != beer)Storage 			(keep in a cool dark dry place)Synergies, Bad Combinations 	(cannabis is good, otherwise be careful)	References & Further Reading:(Recommended) 	_Psychedelic Encyclopedia_ by Peter Stafford	_LSD: My Problem Child_  by Albert Hofmann	_Licit & Illicit Drugs_ (Consumer Reports)	_Storming heaven : LSD and the American dream_  by Jay Stevens******************************LSD	Generic name for the hallucinogen lysergic acid	diethylamide-25.  Discovered by Dr. Albert Hofmann in 1938, LSD is one	of the most potent mind-altering chemicals known.  A white, odorless	powder usually taken orally, its effects are highly variable and begin	within one hour and generally last 8-12 hours, gradually tapering off.	It has been used experimentally in the treatment of alcoholics and	psychiatric patients.  [Where it showed some success.] It	significantly alters perception, mood, and	psychological processes, and can impair motor coordination and skills.	During the 1950s and early 1960s, LSD experimentation was legally	conducted by psychiatrists and others in the health and mental health	professions.  Sometimes dramatic, unpleasant psychological reactions	occur, including panic, great confusion, and anxiety.  Strongly	affected by SET and SETTING.  Classification: hallucinogens.  Slang	names: acid, sugar.  See also appendix B.  (RIS 27:211-52 entries)	-- Research Issues 26, Guide to Drug Abuse Research Terminology,		   available from NIDA or the GPO, page 54...............................Common Drug Slang Terms (NB: many of these refer to the carrier, ie, "Blotter"	or "Sugar Cubes".  Often the local names will refer to patterns printed	on the blotter, eg, "Blue unicorn".):	Acid, 'Cid, Sid, Bart Simpsons, Barrels, Tabs, Blotter, Heavenly blue,	"L", Liquid, Liquid A, Lucy in the sky with diamonds, Microdots,	Mind detergent, Orange cubes, Orange micro,  Owsley, Hits,	Paper acid,  Sacrament, Sandoz,  Sugar, Sugar lumps,	Sunshine, Tabs, Ticket, Twenty-five, Wedding bells, Windowpane,	etc...............................from the data sheet accompanying product:(see also Physician's Desk Reference from mid-60's)                      Delysid (LSD 25)           D-lysergic acid diethylamide tartrate	Sugar-coated tablets containing 0.025 mg. (25 ug.)	Ampoules of 1 ml. containing 0.1  mg.  (100  ug.)  for  oraladministration.     The solution may also be injected  s.c.  or  i.v.   Theeffect  is  identical  with  that of oral administration butsets in more rapidly.                         PROPERTIES     The administration  of  very  small  doses  of  Delysid(1/2-2  ug./kg.  body  weight) results in transitory distur-bances of affect, hallucinations, depersonalization,  reliv-ing  of  repressed memories, and mild neuro-vegetative symp-toms.  The effect sets in after 30 to 90  minutes  and  gen-erally  lasts  5 to 12 hours.  However, intermittent distur-bances of affect may occasionally persist for several days.                  METHOD OF ADMINISTRATION     For oral administration the contents of  1  ampoule  ofDelysid  are  diluted with distilled water, a 1% solution oftartaric acid or halogen-free tap water.     The absorption of the solution is somewhat  more  rapidand more constant that that of the tablets.     Ampoules which have not been opened,  which  have  beenprotected  against  light  and  stored  in  a cool place arestable for an unlimited period.  Ampoules  which  have  beenopened or diluted solutions retain their effectiveness for 1to 2 days, if stored in a refrigerator.                   INDICATIONS AND DOSAGEa)   Analytical  psychotherapy,   to   elicit   release   of     repressed  material and provide mental relaxation, par-     ticularly in anxiety states and obsessional neuroses.     The initial dose is 25 ug. (1/4  of  an  ampoule  or  1     tablet).   This  dose is increased at each treatment by     25 ug. until the optimum dose (usually between 50  and     200  ug.) is found.  The individual treatments are best     given at intervals of one week.b)   Experimental studies on the nature  of  psychoses:   By     taking  Delysid  himself,  the  psychiatrist is able to     gain an insight in the world of ideas and sensations of     mental  patients.   Delysid can also be used to induced     model psychoses of short duration in  normal  subjects,     this facilitating studies on the pathogenesis of mental     disease.     In normal subjects, doses of 25 to 75 ug. are generally     sufficient  to produce a hallucinatory psychosis (on an     average 1 ug./kg. body weight).  In  certain  forms  of     psychosis  and  in chronic alcoholism, higher doses are     necessary (2 to 4 ug./kg. body weight).                        PRECAUTIONS     Pathological mental conditions may  be  intensified  byDelysid.  Particular caution is necessary in subjects with asuicidal tendency and  in  those  cases  where  a  psychoticdevelopment appears imminent.  The psycho-affective labilityand the tendency to commit impulsive acts  may  occasionallylast for some days.     Delysid should only be administered under strict  medi-cal supervision.  The supervision should not be discontinueduntil the effects of the drug have completely worn off.                          ANTIDOTE     The mental effects of Delysid can be  rapidly  reversedby the i.m.  administration of 50 mg. chlorpromazine.              Literature available on request.              SANDOZ LTD., BASLE, SWITZERLAND9792*-Z1540 e.-sp./d.-fr.Printed in Switzerland...............................From: An Introduction to Pharmacology  3rd edition, JJ Lewis, 1964   (p 385)Peripheral ActionsThese include an oxytocic action and constriction of the blood vesselsof isolated vascular beds.  In intact animals LSD causes a fall inblood pressure, but its adrenergic blocking potency is low.LSD causes mydriasis in man and other species.  It also causeshyperglycaemia and mydriasis, has a hyperthermic action and causespiloerection.  These effects are sympathetic in nature and areabolished by ganglion blocking or adrenergic blocking agents.Parasympathetic effects include salivation, lachyrmation, vomiting,hypotension, and brachycardia.  Low doses stimulate respiration butlarger doses depress it.(nb: mydriasis = pupillary dilation)..............................Hoffman thought the diethylamide version of the lysergic acid moleculemight be a respiratory stimulant... (see _Problem Child_ by Hoffman)..............................The "speedy" quality of unadulterated LSD is due to the pharmacologicalactions of LSD itself, and not necessarily due to decomposition or impurities.LSD typically causes early adrenergic effects such as sweating, nervousness,jaw grinding and insomnia which are easily confused with the side effectsof amphetamine.******************************ADDICTION POTENTIAL:Zero physical addiction potential.  Not something that makes you want todo it again immediately.Essentially zero psychological addiction potential.Rarely people use it to escape in a negative way or as part of "polydrugabuse" behavior or pattern of behavior.  Usually in this case otherdrugs are causing more harm, and the fundamental problem is a personaldifficulty; the escapism/distraction is a symptom.******************************ADULTERANTS:Several problems are associated with street drugs: their unknownpurity and their unknown strength.  Because of its extreme cheapnessand potency, the purity of LSD in blotter form is not an issue: eitherit's lsd or untreated paper.  The purity of powders, pills, and liquidscannot be assumed as safe.  With regards to uncertain strength, thestrength of hits these days is low, 100 micrograms or so.  One shouldbe careful and assume that the smallest square in a tiling of a sheetis a dose, even if a printed pattern covers several.  An experiencedperson could judge the strength of a dose, and if it is assumed alldoses on a sheet have been processed equivalently, those doses wouldbe calibrated for others, much like anything else...............................From _Psychedelic Chemistry_ by M.V.Smith,  2nd edition p 5:"There is a great deal of superstition regarding purification ofpsychedelics.  Actually, any impurities which may be present as aresult of synthetic procedures will almost certainly be without anyeffect on the trip.  If there are 200 micrograms of LSD in a tablet,there could only be 200 mics of impurities present even if the LSD wasoriginally only 50% pure (assuming nothing else has been added), andfew compounds will produce a significant effect until a hundred to athousand times this amount has been ingested.  Even mescaline, whichhas a rather specific psychedelic effect, requires about a thousandthimes this amount."..............................Note that: 1) on a piece of paper, vs. a tablet, you can't even addsignificant amounts of adulterants 2) adulterants would cost, whereasblank paper will rip someone off just as well.LSD itself has some "body-kinks" on some people some times.  Nausea isone of them.  its usually mild and transient.  It also has speedlike(ie, adrenergic stimulation) effects, etc.(It is common for the uninformed to harbor fears (e.g., about adulterants)instilled by ignorance and the current hysteria/propoganda.  That's why thisFAQ exists.)..............................[Referring to strychnine] 15 mg has been fatal, but a more typical fataldose is on the order of 50mg.  [Another post indicates 25 mg. as the LD50] 1mg of strychnine orally probably has no observable pharmacological effectsin a typical adult.  [1 mg being ten times the effective dose of LSD, by theway.]From: Handbook of Poisoning, 10th ed, R.H. Dreisbach, M.D., PhD, Lange Med.Pub. Co. Los Altos, Ca.: strychnine is lethal in 15-30 mg amounts to adulthumans.  (Pure nicotine is fatal at 40 mg./person; cyanide salts are fatalat about 100 mg./person) Strychnine causes death by respitory failure, viaincreased spinal reflex excitability.Actually, I think the fact that PharmChem analyzed something on the order of2,000 LSD samples between 1972 and 1979 and never found one with strychninein it would be better.  I'm going over all their data with a toothpick andI'll get back to you on exactly what I find.  It looks like the percent ofLSD with strychnine in it is, however, at least under .05%.  More a littlelater...............................According to Alexander Shulgin the difinitive answer is that strychnine isneither used in the synthesis, produced by the synthesis, or a possiblecontaminant of the synthesis.  But just look at the structures of strychninevs Lysergic acid/LSD/etc and you should be able to understand that readily...............................From "The PharmChem Newsletter" (vol 3, no 3), 1973:Summary of Street Drug Results - 1973: "Of 189 samples of LSD quantitativelyanalyzed, the average dose was 67.25ug LSD.  Of the 32 samples of allegedmescaline actually containing mescaline, [...stuff about mescaline andmushrooms deleted...]  It is interesting to note the low incidence ofdeception among the less sought after psychotomimetics LSD and PCP."Most likely "good" acid is N-acetyl-LSD (ALD-52) [according to_Psychedelic Encyclopedia_ it produces a smoother trip and is somewhatcommonly found in analysis -- references to the latter were provided].  while"speedy" acid is LSD-25.  You might want to inform her that those "speedy"effects are also commonly reported side effects of legal drugs whicheffect the 5-HT neurotransmitter system.  And ditto on the potency issue --you'd need mg quantities of strychnine to feel anything.  And what you wouldfeel (according to descriptions I've read) does not match descriptions ofLSD "speed" effects.  Most significantly because strychnine muscular effectstend to fade in & out, while LSD "speed" effects are typically reported asbeing consistent -- and there are other qualitative differences."actual experience"? ... no one here is likely to post descriptions of thatover the net, even in e-mail...  I'm *quite* sure that some people couldthough...> Well, hypothetically speaking, I bought some from her friends, and I could> probably surrender half a hit or a whole one, maybe, in the interest of> science.  Does anyone have facilities to perform a REAL (hypothetical)> analysis of blotter to find out exactly what's in it?Its been done....> > Schnoll SH  Vogel WH> > Analysis of "street drugs".> > N Engl J Med (1971 Apr 8) 284(14):791This reference sucks.> > Brown JK  Shapazian L  Griffin GD> > A rapid screening procedure for some "street drugs" by thin-layer> >      chromatography.> > J Chromatogr (1972 Jan 19) 64(1):129-33Nope.There's a LA County analysis of street drugs I've got (Clin Tox ~1984 I think)that reports LSD as being >96% pure or blank (If I remember correctly) --the rest most likely is substitutes, but it wasn't reported in the analysis...............................This is the PharmChem analysis of LSD from 1972 (vol 1, no 1) up to the timethat the DEA no longer allowed them to make quantitative measurements (1974-vol 3, no 2 included).  NOTE:  NO STRYCHNINE! also note that PharmChem founda sample of Shrooms contaminated with Strychnine in 1972 (vol 1, no 7), andI would think it safe to assume that they also checked LSD for Strychnine.******************************BAD TRIPS: A person on LSD who becomes depressed, agitated, or confused mayexperience these feelings in an overwhelming manner that grows onitself.  The best solution is to remove disturbing influences, get toa safe, comforting environment, and reassure the tripper that thingsare alright.  It may comfort those who fear that they are losing theirminds to be reminded that it will end in several hours.Authorities are fond of administering injections of anti-psychoticdrugs.  Recovery in the presence of authorities, in hospitals orpolice stations, is not pleasant.  Sedatives or tranquilizers such asValium may help reduce panic and anxiety, but the best solution iscalm talking.  Some claim that niacin (an over the counter vitaminsupplement) can abort a trip, but this may be due to a placebo effect(niacin produces a flushing effect).Remember that odd bodily sensations are normal and not harmful.******************************From page 8 of Robert Anton Wilson's Sex and Drugs: A Journey Beyond Limits"The distinction between psycholytic and psychedelic doses of LSD is used inmany scientific publications but seems to be ignored by popularizers whoeither preach the "LSD utopia" or warn of the "decline of the West." Apsycholitic does, generally 75 or 100 - or at most 200 - micrograms, causesa rush of thoughts, a lot of free association, some visualization(hallucination) and abreaction (memories so vivid that one seems to relivethe experience). A psychedelic dose, around 500 micrograms, produces totalbut temporary breakdown of usual ways of perceiving self and world and(usually) some form of "peak experience" or mystic transcendence of ego."Bad trips" usually occur only on psychedelic doses."******************************The best review of this question is Rick Strassman's "Adverse Reactionsto Psychedelic Drugs: a Review of the Literature" in _J. Nerv and MentalDisease_ 172(10):577-595.  He writes:The most common adverse reaction is a temporary (less than 24 hours)episode of panic --the "bad trip".  Symptoms include frightening illusions/hallucinations (usually visual and/or auditory); overwhelming anxietyto the point of panic; aggression with possible violent acting-out behavior;depression with suicidcal ideations, gestures, or attempts; confusion; andfearfulness to the point of paranoid delusions.Reactions that are prolonged (days to months) and/or require hospitalizationare often referred to as "LSD psychosis," and include a heterogenouspopulation and group of symptoms.  Although there are no hard andfast rules, some trends have been noted in these patients.  There is atendency for people with poorer premorbid adjusment, a history ofpsychiatric illness and/or treatment, a greater number of exposure topsychedelic drugs (and correlatively, a great average totalcumulative dosage taken over time), drug-taking in an unsupervisedsetting, a history of polydrug abuse, and self-therapeutic and/orpeer-pressure-submission motive for drug use, to suffer these consequences.In spite of the impressive degree of prior problems noted in many of thesepatients, there are occasional reports of severe and prolonged reactionsoccuring in basically well adjusted individuals.  In the same vein,there are many instance of faily poorly adapted individuals who suffer_no_ ill effects from repeated psychedelic drug use.  In fact, it has beenhypothesized that some schizophrenics do not suffer adverse reactionsbecause of their familiarity with such acute altered states.  Anotherpossibility is that there individuals may be "protected" by possible "down-regulation" of the receptors for LSD, bu the (over-)production of someendogenous compound.  _Individual_ prediction of adverse reactions,therefore, is quite difficult......Major "functional" psychosis vs. "LSD psychosis"-----------------------------------------------A diagnostic issue dealth with explicitly in only a few papers is that ofLSD-precipitated major functional illnesses, e.g. affective disordersor schizophrenia.  In other words, many of these so called LSD psychosescould be other illnesses that were triggered by the stress of a traumaticpsychedelic drug experience.  Some of the same methodological issuesdescribed earlier affect these studies, but they are, on the averagembetter controlled, with more family and past psychiatric history availablefor comparison.Hensala et al. compared LSD-using and non-LSD-using psychiatric inpatients.They found that this group of patients was generally of a younger age andcontained more characteristically disordered individuals than the non-LSD-using group.  Patients with specific diagnoses with or without LSDhistories were not compared.  Based on their observations, they concludedthat LSD was basically just another drug of abuse in a population offrequently hospitalized individuals in the San Francisco area, and thatit was unlikely that psychedelic use could be deemed etiological in thedevelopment of their psychiatric disorders.Roy, Breakey et al., and Vardy and Kay have attempted to relate LSD use tothe onset and revelopment of a schizophrenia-like syndrome.  A few commentsregarding this conceptual framework seem in order, before their findingsare discussed.  The major factor here is that of choosing schizophrenia,or in the Vardy and Kay study, schizophreniform disorders, as thecomparison group.  There is an implication here that LSD psychoses arecomparable, phenomenologically, to schizophrenia-like disorders, and thatLSD can "cause" the development of such disorders.  The multiplicity ofsymptoms and syndromes described in the "adverse reaction" literatureshould make it clear that LSD can cause a number of reactions that can lastfor any amount of time--from minutes to, possibly, years.  I believe whatis being studied here is the question of the potential role of LSD inaccelerating or precipitating the onset of an illness that was "programmed"to develop ultimately in a particular individual--in a manner comparableto the major physical or emotional stress that often precipitates a bonafide myocardial infarction in an individual with advanced coronaryatheresclerosis.  The stress did not _cause_ the heart disease; it wasonly the stimulus that accelerated the inexorable process to manifestillness.In looking at the relevant studies, Breakey et al. found that schizophrenicswho "used drugs" had an earlier onset of symptoms and hospitalization thannon-drug-using schizophrenics, and had possibly better premorbid personal-ities than non-drug using patients (although Vardy and KAy have challengedthis analysis of Breakey's data).Bowers compared 12 first-admission patients with psychosis related to LSDuse, requiring hospitalization and phenothiazines, to 26 patients hospital-ized and treated with phenothiazines with no history of drug use.  Sixof these controls had been previously hospitalized.  Drug-induced psychoticpatients were found to have better premorbib histories and prognosticindicators than the nondrug groups.  There was no difference in rates offamily history of psychiatric illness.  However, several issues flawthis study.  One is the poly-drug abusing nature of the "LSD-induced"psychotic patients, compared to the controls.  The role of LSD, therefore,in causing or precipitating these symptomatic disorders, is open to dispute.The other is the lack of an adequate comparison control group, i.e. thecontrols were specified only as "psychotic," and did not necessarilymatch the LSD group in either symptoms or diagnostic classification.A follow-up study of the patients occured between 2 and 6 years later.One half did well and one half did poorly, although the lack of a controlgroup for a follow-up in a similarly symptomatic control group makesinterpretation of the data difficult.Roy, in a somewhat different design, compared chronic schizophrenicpatients (diagnosed according to DSM-III criteria) who had used LSDwithin the week preceding hospitalization, and found no differencein age of symptom onset or hospitalization compared to patients withouta history of illicit drug use.Vardy and Kay, in an elegant study with a 3- and 5- year follow-up period,demonstrated that patients hospitalized for a schizophrenic picturethat developed within two weeks of LSD use (patients with other diagnoseswere explicitly excluded form comparisons with non-drug-usingschizophrenics) were "fundamentally similar to schizophrenics ingeneology, phenomenology, and course of illness (165, p. 877).  Pre-morbid adjustment, age of onset of symptoms and hospitalization, familyhistory of psychosis or suicide, and most cognitive features were alsoequal between groups.  Family histories of alcohol abuse were markedlygreat in the LSD group.I believe these data, taken as a whole, limited as they are in terms ofcomparing subgroups (i.e. LSD-using vs. non-LSD-using) of "schizophrenia-like" disorders, point towar, at most, a possible precipitory role inthe development of these disorders, in a non specific and notetiologically related manner.MYTHS:LSD does not form "crystals" that reside in the body to be "dislodged"later, causing flashbacks.  LSD is a crystalline solid (though it isunlikely that one would ever have enough to be visible to the nakedeye) but it is easily water soluble, thus cannot form bodilydeposits.  Furthermore, it is metabolized and excreted in hours.  Thebogus "loosened crystal" description in not necessary to explainflashbacks, which are psychological phenomena (see FLASHBACKS).LSD does not cause chromosome damage.In Science 30 April 1972, Volume 172 Number 3982 p. 431-440 there was anarticle by Norman I. Dishotsky, William D. Loughman, Robert E. Mogar andWendell R. Lipscomb titled "LSD and Genetic Damage - Is LSD chromosomedamaging, carcinogenic, mutagenic, or teratogenic?". They reviewed 68studies and case reports published 1967-1972, concluding "From our ownwork and from a review of literature, we believe that pure LSD ingestedin moderate doses does not damage chromosomes in vivo, does not causedetectable genetic damage, and is not a teratogen or carcinogen in man."Well, there's the study by Sidney Cohen which was cited hererecently, Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 130, 1960. Thefollowing is from Jay Stevens' Storming Heaven: "Cohen surveyed a sampleof five thousand individuals who had taken LSD twenty-five thousandtimes. He found and average of 1.8 psychotic episodes per thousandingestions, 1.2 attempted suicides, and 0.4 completed suicides.'Considering the enormous scope of the psychic responses it induces,'he concluded, 'LSD is an astonishingly safe drug.'"Some urban legends: I've heard two "stories" about people blindingthemselves on "drugs". One was revealed as a hoax by the person whoperpetrated it (apparently it was intended to "illustrate" the dangersof LSD), another is trotted out by anti-drug speakers at high schools:1) Seven people on LSD stared at the sun and lost 90% of their reading   vision.2) A teenager arrested while on LSD plucked out his eyeballs in his   jail cell, and felt no pain.While these are bogus, the drug has powerful effects on the mindand the consumer should be aware of the hazards, and act appropriately...............................There is an occasionally circulated fake warning from some police departmentabout LSD-laced "tattoos" or stickers (the "blue star tattoo" story) beinggiven to children.  This probably originated with some hick cop or ignorantand panicky parent not understanding some children-cartoon (eg, mickey mousein sorcerer's garb) printed on a sheet of blotter...............................See also myths about testing in DRUG TESTING******************************DANGERS:Purely psychological hazards, not harmful to body.  May release latentpsychosis or exacerbate depression, leading to irrational behavior.  Thereis also a danger of foolish or incautious behavior, e.g, misjudgingdistances or thinking one can fly.  Physical overdose is not a hazard,though one may easily ingest more than one may be able to handlepsychologically...............................Because the "LSD psychosis" is not distinguishable from non-drug-induced psychosis, we have reasonable evidence to conclude that LSDwas not the sole cause of psychosis.  Instead, it would seem that thedrug brought on the problems in vulnerable individuals.Interestingly, the rate of parental alcoholism was found to be muchhigher in LSD patients than in other patients or in the generalpopulation by one study (Vardy and Kay, Arch-Gen-Psych, 1983 40(8):877-83)...............................Lethal (toxic) doses of LSD are conservatively several tens ofthousands of times as much as a normal dose, making it (in the toxicsense) one of the safest drugs known.  See section on Pharmacology fordescription of bodily  side-effects.    The LD50 for psilocybin (active ingredient in mushrooms) is 275 mg/kgi.v. in mice.  Of course, it would take lots more p.o. to kill someone.    The reported LD50 values for LSD are 46, 16.5, 0.3 mg/kg I.V. for mice,rats, and rabbits, respectively.  Again, it's hard to accurately translatethese numbers to oral values.Note that an average human dose is 0.001 mg/kg, ie, 1 microgram/kg, ie,1 part per billion by weight...............................Never take any drugs while pregnant.  Best to be prudent.******************************FLASHBACKS:   Quoted without permission from 'Licit and Illicit Drugs,' written byEdward M. Brecher and the editors of Consumer Reports. ISBN: 0-316-15340-0   A simple explanation of LSD flashbacks, and of their changed characterafter 1967, is available.  According to this theory, almost everybodysuffers flashbacks with or without LSD.  Any intense emotionalexperience--the death of a loved one, the moment of discovery that one is inlove, the moment of an automobile smashup or of a narrow escape from asmashup--may subsequently and unexpectedly return vividly to consciousnessweeks or months later.  Since the LSD trip is often an intense emotionalexperience, it is hardly surprising that it may similarly "flash back."   <end quote>"Post-traumatic stress disorder has been commonly associated with warveterans, but it also affects victims of disasters and violence... Expertsestimate that 1% of the population suffers from the disorder."---LA Times, Feb 18 1992, p A3, "Journey For Better Life Hell For Some Women."..............................   Can smoking marijuana induce a flashback?   Also are you more likely to suffer flashbacks from having a bad trip?Apparently yes and yes.  The following is reproduced withoutpermission from Lester Grinspoon and James B. Bakalar, "PsychedelicDrugs Reconsidered," Basic Books, Inc.  New York, 1979. pp. 159-163.I highly recommend this book, and if you find it please buy me onetoo.I typed this in a while ago and didn't type in the references at thetime (slap!).  If you want them i'll see what i can do.  Typos aremine.	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	... Studies of flashbacks are hard to evaluate because theterm has been used so loosely and variably.  On the broadestdefinition, it means the transitory recurrence of emotions andperceptions originally experienced while under the influence of apsychedelic drug.  It can last seconds or hours; it can mimic any ofthe myriad aspects of a trip; and it can be blissful, interesting,annoying, or frightening.  Most flashbacks are episodes of visualdistortion, time distortion, physical symptoms, loss of egoboundaries, or relived intense emotion lasting a few seconds to a fewminutes.  Ordinarily they are only slightly disturbing, especiallysince the drug user usually recognizes them for what they are; theymay even be regarded lightheartedly as "free trips."  Occasionallythey last longer, and in a small minority of cases they turn intorepeated frightening images or thoughts.  They usually decreasequickly in number and intensity with time, and rarely occur more thana few months after the original trip.	A typical minor and pleasant flashback is the following:--	... Frequently afterward there is a momentary "opening"("flash" would be too spastic a word) when for maybe a couple ofseconds an area one is looking at casually, and indeed unthinkingly,suddenly takes on the intense vividness, composition, and significanceof things seen while in the psychedelic condition.  This "scene" isnearly always a small field of vision -- sometimes a patch of grass, aspray of twigs, even a piece of newspaper in the street or the remainsof a meal on a plate (Cohen 1970[1965], pp. 114-115)--	Here are two more troublesome examples:--	For about a week I couldn't walk through the lobby of A-entryat the dorm without getting really scared, because of the goblin I sawthere when I was tripping. (Pope 1971, p. 93)--	A man in his late twenties came to the admitting office in astate of panic.  Althought he had not taken any drug in approximately2 moths he was beginning to re-experience some of the illusoryphenomena, perceptual distortions, and the feeling of union with thethings areound him that had previously occurred only under theinfluence of LSD.  In addition, his wife had told him that he wasbeginning to "talk crazy," and he had become frightened ... He wasconcerned lest LSD have some permanent effect on him.  He wishedreassurance so that he could take it again.  His symptoms havesubsided but tend to reappear in anxiety-provoking situations.(Frosch et al. 1965, p. 1237)--	Flashbacks are most likely to occur under emotional stress orat a time of altered ego functioning; they are often induced byconditions like fatigue, drunkenness, marihuana intoxication, and evenmeditative states.  Falling asleep is one of those times ofconsciousness change and diminished ego control; an increase in thehypnagogic imagery common at the edge of sleep often followspsychedelic drug use and can be regarded as a kind of flashback.Dreams too may take on the vividness, intensity, and perceptualpeculiarities of drug trips; this spontaneous recurrence ofpsychedelic experience in sleep (often very pleasant) has been calledthe high dream (Tart 1972).  Marihuana smoking is probably the mostcommon single source of flashbacks.  Many people become more sensitiveto the psychedelic qualities of marihuana after using more powerfuldrugs, and some have flashbacks only when smoking marihuana (Weil1970).  In one study frequency of marihuana use was found to be theonly factor related to drugs that was correlated with number ofpsychedelic flashbacks (Stanton et al. 1976).	How common flashbacks are said to be depeds on how they aredefined.  By the broad definition we have been using, they occur veryoften; probably a quarter or more of all psychedelic drug users haveexperienced them.  A questionanaire survey of 2,256 soldiers (Stantonand Bardoni 1972), leaving the definition to the respondents, revealedthat 23 percent of the men who used LSD had flashbacks.  In a 1972survey of 235 LSD users, Murray P. Naditch and Sheridan Fenwick foundthat 28 percent had flashbacks.  Eleven percent of this group (sevenmen in all) called them very frightening, 32 percent called themsomewhat frightening, 36 percent called them pleasant, and 21 percentcalled them very pleasant.  Sixty-four percent said that theirflashbacks did not disrupt their lives in any way; 16 percent (4percent of the whole LSD-using group) had sought psychiatric help forthem (Naditch and Fenwick 1977).  In a study of 247 subjects who hadtaken LSD in psychotherapy, William H. McGlothlin and David O. Arnoldfound 36 cases of flashbacks, only one of which was seriouslydisturbing (McGlothlin and Arnold 1971).  McGlothlin, definingflashbacks narrowly for clinical purposes as "repeated intrusions offrightening images in spite of volitional efforts to avoid them"(McGlothlin 1974b, p. 291), estimates that 5 percent of habitualpsychedelic users have experienced them.	There are few studies on the question of who is mostsusceptible.  In 1974, R. E. Matefy and R. Krall compared psychedelicdrug users who had flashbacks with those who did not, and found nosignificant differences in their biographies or on personality tests.The main causes of flashbacks were stress and anxiety.  About 35percent found them more or less pleasant, and the same proportionthought they could control them.  Most accepted them as an inevitablepart of their lives as members of the psychedelic fraternity and didnot want help from psychiatry (Matefy and Krall 1974).  Naditch andFenwick found that the number of flashbacks, both pleasant andunpleasant, was highly correlated with the number and intensity of badtrips and the use of psychedelic drugs as self-prescribedpsychotherapy.  Those who enjoyed flashbacks and those who werefrightened by them did not differ significantly on tests of egofunctioning.	A case seen in an outpatient setting in the late sixtiesillustrates the kind of set and setting that may create flashbackproblems.  PQ was a thirty-six-year-old single man who entered therapybecause of depression and anxiety.  He was a heavy drinker who waspassive, slovenly, and spent most of his time in bed.  Just beforetaking to alcohol and his bed he had failed in an attempt to parlay agift from his wealthy father into a fortune on the stock market.Despite a remarkable incapacity for insight, during a year inpsychotherapy he managed to give up alcohol and start a promisingbusiness.  But his anxiety continued, and in order to allay it he hadto keep himself very busy wheeling and dealing.  Imitating his father,a successful self-made man who had married a woman twenty yearsyounger than himself, PQ dated only women under the age of nineteen.Being attractive to young women was so imporant to him that much ofhis time was spent in the company of teenagers.  During business hourshe would wear a conservative three-piece suit and drive a new sedan,but when he was with his young friends he would wear a leather jacketand drive a motorcycle.  Anxiety and fears of inadequacy dominatedboth of these lives.  Several months after therapy began, during aweekend in a small resort town, his young friends decided to take LSD,and he felt obliged to dissemble his fears and join them; it was hisfirst and only trip.  He felt a panic he had never known before; hethought that he was losing his mind and going "out of control."  Hisfriends were so concerned thet they took him to a small hospital,where he was given chlorpromazine and after six hours released intheir care.  The next day he had a flashback that lasted one or twohours and was almost as frightening as the original experience.Flashbacks continued for six months, their frequency, duration, andseverity eventually diminishing to the point where it was difficultfor him to determine whether they were related to the LSD trip ormerely an intensification of his usual anxiety.  In fact, the patientdescribed the flashbacks as being like very much enhanced anxietyepisodes.  Even several years after this experience, when he becamevery anxious, he was reminded of the trip and these flashbacks.  Hedenied that these experiences had any perceptual or cognitive aspect;both during the LSD trip and later, the only symptom was panic.  Thereis no question that the nature of his trip was influenced by theunfortunate set and setting.  It is a matter of speculation what parthis underlying chronic anxiety played in the development and form ofthe flashback phenomena.	Several explanations for flashbacks have been proposed.  Oneis that the drug has lowered the threshold for imagery and fantasy andmade them less subject to voluntary control; in another version ofthis explanation, flashbacks are caused by a heightened attention tocertain aspects of immediate sensory experience suggested by drugtrips and reinforced by the community of drug users.  Something moreseems to be needed to account for repeated fearful relivings ofsequences from past drug trips, and these have been explained assimilar to traumatic neuroses precipitated by fright: disturbingunconscious material has risen to consciousness during the drug tripand can be neither accepted nor repressed.  For example, D. F. Saideland R. Babineau (1976) have reported a case of recurrent flashbacks --three years of blurring images and auditory distortions, with someanxiety and confusion -- which they regard as a neurosis founded onthe patient's problems with his career and his relationship to hismother. (See also Horowitz 1969; Shick and Smith 1970; Heaton 1975.)Another explanation treats the flashback as an example of recallassociated with a particular level of arousal. (Fischer 1971).  Inthis conception the memory of an experience is best retrieved when therate of mental data-processing is the same as it was during theoriginal experience -- in other words, when the state of consciousnessin similar.  Therefore, psychedelic experiences are likely to berecalled and relived when the ego's sorting and control of sensoryinformation is disturbed by drugs, stress, or the state of half-sleep.	For a critique of flashback studies, see Stanton et al. 1976	-	-	-	-	-	-	-******************************INSOMNIA:Insomnia occurs frequently after the trip.  A mild, over-the-countersleeping aid can help, and these antihistamines do not produce adverseinteractions.  Also, some people like to consume a small amount of alcoholicbeverage to "smooth the jitteries".  The usual precautions about sleepingaids if alcohol has been consumed apply of course.******************************TOLERANCE:Aquired rapidly, within 3 days.  Tolerance dissipates equally rapidly,without withdrawal, craving, or symptoms of addiction.Cross-tolerance can and is developed between other indole hallucinogens, eg,DMT, LSD and Psilocybin.******************************BOTANY:Lysergic compounds appear in ergot, a fungal parasite of cereal grains;morning glory and hawaiian baby wood rose seeds; psychedelic tryptaminesalso occur in psilocybe mushrooms, in some south american trees and thepoison glands of the cane toad.  (Mescaline is not in this chemical family)..............................."Indole Alkaloids In Plant Hallucinogens"  Richard Evans Schultes, PhD.Journal of Psychedelic Drugs Vol.8(No.1) Jan-Mar 1976"The main constituent of the seeds of Rivea corymbosa is ergine or d-lysergicacid amide. Minor alkaloids present are the related d-isolysergic acid amide(isoergine), chanoclavine, elymoclavine and lysergol. The seeds of Ipomoeaviolacea have a similar composition, but instead of lysergol, they haveergometrine (ergonovine). Later, very minor amounts of two alkaloidsergometrinine and penniclavine - were found in I. violacea by chromatography.the total alkaloid content of the seeds of Ipomoea viloacea is approximatelyfive times as great as that of the seeds of Rivea corymbosa: 0.06% in theformer; 0.012% in the latter. This difference in the alkaloid contentexplains why Indians employ smaller doses of seeds of the Ipomoea than of theRivea."Ethnopharmacology and Taxonomy of Mexican Psychodysleptic Plants" Jose Luis Diaz M.D. Journal of Psychedelic Drugs Vol. 11(1-2) Jan-Jun 1979Seeds of various Morning Glories contain Ergolines:  ergine,isoergine,ergonovine Glucosides: turbicoryn [apparently in Rivea corymbosa only]called Tlitlitzen (Aztec word for "The Divine Black One")to the Aztecs, Black is a "hot" color,a property of psychotropics associated with light.............................."The Botanical and Chemical Distribution of Hallucinogens"Richard Evans Schultes, PhD.Journal of Psychedelic Drugs Vol.9(No.3) Jul-Sep 1977"I. violacea, often referred to by it's synonyms I. rubro-caerulea andI. tricolor, is represented in horticulture by a number of "varieties,"such as: Heavenly Blue, Pearly Gates, Flying Saucers, Wedding Bells,Summer Skies, and Blue Stars - all of which contain the hallucinogenicergot alkaloids.">In the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, 1980, there is an article>on an ergot derivative used in obstetrics which is an hallucinogen.>Although the dose required is ten times the ED50 (.2 mg) no>significant ill effects were reported.>I believe the name of this drug is methyl ergovine(?)  The drug>without the methyl group is supposed to be more effective.  It>was (is?) a Sandoz drug, for those with a PDR.Ergonovine and methylergonovine are both oxytocic agents: they increaseuterine tone and are used (rarely) to assist in delivery and (morefrequently) to stop post-partum uterine hemorrhage.  Less frequently,they can be used to abort a migraine headache.  If they have anyhallucinogenic effects, it is certainly a well-kept secret.I would be quite concerned about taking 10x the therapeutic doseof a drug like ergonovine, since it can cause arterial spasm andprecordial distress even in healthy persons, and intense vaso-constriction and gangrene can follow from an overdose.  Theseare not drugs to fool around with.Another related drug, 1-methyl-methylergonovine, or methysergide(Sansert), is used in migraine prophylaxis, and is claimed to haveLSD-like actions when high doses are taken.  The methyl group onthe indole nitrogen reduces the drug's vasoconstrictive actions.Chronic, uninterrupted use of the drug causes a fibrosis of theheart valves and the lungs..............................."Burger's Medicinal Chemistry" Fourth Edition, Volume IIIChapter: "Hallucinogens"  Alexander Shulgin                  Composition, % of total alkaloids present                  =========================================Compound          R. corymbosa       I. violacea===============   ================   ======================Ergine (LA-111)   54, 48             58, 10-16, 5-10Isoergine         17, 35             8, 18-26, 9-17Ergometrine                          8Elymoclavine      4                  4Chanoclavine      4                  4Lysergol          4Total Alkaloids   .012, .04          .06, .04-.08, .02-.04(% of dry weight of seeds)******************************ANTHROPOLOGY:_The Road to Eleusius_ by Hoffman, Wasson, and Ruck.Summary: A secret religion existed for 2,000 years in Greece (untilthe christians displaced it around 400 AD).  The initiation was opento anyone who spoke Greek and hadn't committed murder, once in theirlife.  After 6 month long preparatory rituals, members walked toEleusius whereupon they underwent secret rituals.  The ritualsremained secret until the 1970's.Wasson, an ethnomycological scholar and former banker (and the firstwhite to trip on shrooms with the mexican indians) proposed thefollowing explanation of the Eleusian mysteries to Hoffman, anergot-alkaloid expert chemist, and Ruck, a greek scholar:The Secret of the ritual involved the personal visions induced bydrinking the grain decoction administered to the initiates.  Thedomestication of grains permitted the development of greekcivilization; it also brought ergot fungus (of St. Anthony's fireinfamy).The thin book contains their argument for the use of the ergot fungusin Eleusian rites, Wasson providing some background on the use ofmushrooms and grains and their role in the culture; Hoffman on thepsychoactivity of ergot strains; and Ruck on the mythological andcultural backround of the sect.Evidence includes: Hoffman dosed himself with large (ergot-derived)doses of obstetric compounds to assay their hallucinogenic potential,and found them to possess such activity.  The Eleusian temple site stillremains, but there is no room to view theatric performances, just rows oftripping initiates, further supporting their argument.An interesting read, and its neat to think that the culture thatmore or less lead to the western industrial one had psychedelic rites.(Various greek prominant figures attended the rituals, including Plato)...............................IPOMOEA PURPUREA: A NATURALLY OCCURRING PSYCHEDELICCharles Savage, Willis W. Harman and James Fadiman>From  "Altered States of Consciousness, A Book of Readings"       edited by Charles Tart   BF311.T28Of the naturally occurring plant alkaloids used in ancient and modernreligious rites and divination one of the least studied is ololiuqui. Theearliest known description of its use is by Hernandez, the King of Spain'spersonal physician, who spent a number of years in Mexico studying themedicinal plants of the Indians and "accurately illustrated ololiuqui as amorning glory in his work which was not published until 1651" (Schultes,1960). In his words, "When a person takes ololiuqui, in a short time he losesclear reasoning because of the strength of the seed, and he believes he is incommunion with the devil" (Alacon, 1945). Schultes (1941) and Wasson (1961)have reported in detail on the religious and divinatory use of two kinds ofmorning-glory seeds, Rivea corymbosa and Ipomoea violacea, among the Mazatecand Zapotec indians. The first of these is assumed to be the ololiuqui of theancient Aztecs.In 1955 Osmond described personal experiments with Rivea corymbosa seeds andreported that the effects were similar to those of d-lysergic aciddiethylamide (LSD-25). He suggested (1957) that the word psychedelic (meaningmind-manifesting) be used as a generic term for this class of substances torefer to their consciousness-expanding and psychotherapeutic function ascontrasted  with the hallucinogenic aspect. In 1960 Hoffman reported that hehad isolated d-lysergic acid amide (LA) and d-isolysergic acid amide from theseed of both Rivea corymbosa and Ipomoea violacea. LA is very similar to LSDin its psychological and physiological manifestations but is reported to haveabout one twentieth the psychological effectiveness of LSD (Cerletti &Doepfner, 1958).The work of these investigators led us to a preliminary study of thepsychedelic properties of species of Ipomoea which are commonly found withinthe continental United States. The seeds of Ipomoea purpurea, the commonclimbing morning glory, resemble the seeds of Ipomoea violacea and have beenfound to have similar psychedelic properties. Recent analysis by Taber et al.(1963) has verified that LA is present in the varieties used and is probablythe primary active agent.The effects of the seeds of Ipomoea purpurea (varieties Heavenly Blue andPearly Gates) in a total of 45 cases are summarized below. The subjects areall normally functioning adults and the majority had previous experience withLSD. The onset of effects is about half an hour after the seeds have beenchewed and swallowed and they last from five to eight hours.               Low Dose, 20-50 Seeds (11 Subjects)This dosage rarely produces any visual distortions, although with eyesclosed there may be beginning imagery. Restlessness, evidenced by alternatingperiods of pacing about and lying down, may be present. There tends to be aheightened awareness of objects and of nature, and enhanced rapport withother persons. A feeling of emotional clarity and of relaxation is likely topersist for several hours after other effects are no longer noticeable.              Medium Dose, 100-150 Seeds (22 Subjects)In this range the effects resemble those reported for medium-dose (75-150micrograms) LSD experiences, including spatial distortions, visual andauditory hallucinations, intense imagery with eyes closed, synaesthesia andmood elevation. These effects, which occur mainly during the period of 1 to 4hours after ingestion, are typically followed by a period of alert calmnesswhich may last until the subject goes to sleep.              High Dose, 200-500 Seeds (12 Subjects)In this range the first few hours may resemble the medium-dose effectsdescribed above. However, there is usually a period during which thesubjective states are of a sort not describable in terms of images ordistortions, states characterized by loss of ego boundaries coupled withfeelings of euphoria and philosophical insight. These seem to parallel thepublished descriptions of experiences with high doses (200-500 micrograms) ofLSD given in a supportive, therapeutic setting as reported by Sherwood et al.(1962).All the subjects who had previous experience with LSD claimed the effects ofthe seeds were similar to those of LSD. Transient nausea was the mostcommonly reported side effect, beginning about one half hour after ingestionand lasting a few minutes to several hours. Other reported side effects notcommonly found with LSD were a drowsiness or torpor (possibly due to aglucoside also present in the seeds) and a coldness in the extremitiessuggesting that the ergine content of the seeds may be causing some vascularconstriction. (If this is the case, there may be some danger of ergotpoisoning resulting from excessive dosages of the seeds.) The only untowardpsychic effect was a prolonged (eight hours) disassociative reaction whichwas terminate with chlorpromazine [Thorazine]. The possibility of prolongedadverse reactions to the psychological effects of the seeds is essentiallythe same as with LSD, and the same precautions should be observed (Cohen &Ditman, 1963)...............................IPOMOEA.003   7-MAY-90Additional Notes:Ipomoea purpurea is sold as the "Heavenly Blue" variety of morning glory."Ipomoea tricolor" is the trade name used for that variety. It is identicalwith the species of morning glory described above.The seeds must be chewed or ground in order to be effective. Soaking theground seeds in water for several hours, filtering out the grounds,and then drinking only the water portion of the mixture can reducesome of the stomach-upset symptoms if such occur.Unpleasant LSD and morning glory trips can be smoothed out or evenstopped by taking niacin (in the form of nicotinic acid, vitamin B-3 or"niacin"). Vitamin C has been shown to reduce the incidence of paranoia andprevent depletion of the vitamin from the adrenal glands during LSD trips.There have been reports that commercially available packets of morningglory seeds from some distributors are coated with fungicides orother chemicals to increase shelf life or discourage the practiceof eating them. Seeds from plants grown in one's own garden willbe safe as long as you do not spray them with insecticides.The last few notes about Niacin and Vitamin C are based ona paperback edition of Hoffer & Osmonds "The Psychedelics"It's pretty clear that the latin names of this plant are somewhatconfused (which is typical). Ipomoea purpurea, Ipomoea tricolor,Ipomoea violacea and Ipomoea rubro-caerulea are all the same plant.The other variety of morning glory, "Ololiuhqui" has at least twoLatin names as well: Rivea corymbosa, and Turbina corymbosa..............................."Recreational use of Ergoline Alkaloids from Argyreia Nervosa"William E. ShawcrossJournal of Psychedelic Drugs Vol. 15(4) Oct-Dec 1983CHEMISTRY AND EFFECT OF THE SEEDSThe Hawaiian baby woodrose entered the drug scene in 1965 with thepublication of a paper in "Science" entitled "Ergoline Alkaloids in TropicalWood Roses" by Hylin and Watson. The wide circulation of this journal assuredthorough dissemination of the information they presented. They wrote, "Thepossible health and legal problems associated with the presence of similarcompounds in commercially cultivated plants led us to examine the ornamentalwood roses, Ipomoea tuberosa and Argyreia nervosa, both common Hawaiian cropsthat have assumed commerical importance as components of [the] dried tropicalflower industry." Comparing the seeds of these two plants with those of themorning glory varieties Pearly Gates and Heavenly Blue, they found thefollowing yield of alkaloids (mg of alkaloid/g of seed material):     Heavenly Blue        0.813     Pearly Gates         0.423     I. tuberosa          [None]     A. nervosa           3.050The seed of A. nervosa is the best plant source of ergoline alkaloidsdiscovered; it contains approximately 3 mg of alkaloidal material per gram ofseed. Approximately one-eighth of this is lysergamide.Hylin and Watson found the major alkaloidal constituents in A. nervosa seeds tobe ergine (780 mcg/g of fresh seed) and isoergine and penniclavine (555 mcg).[Note: Argyreia nervosa has NO history of shamanic use as a hallucinogen]This is an excerpt from the article cited.There's no record of Argyreia being used as an hallucinogen inIndia, but it was used externally as some kind of skin medicine.There's been speculation that Argyreia might have been a componentof "Soma", but there's no evidence for that, apparently.Because there's not a long history of human usage of Argyreia,it may be that there are glycosides not mentioned here thattake effect at higher doses or might cause stomach upset, tachycardiaetc. The article mentioned intestinal complaints in one or twocases at higher experimental doses.******************************CHEMISTRY:lysergic acid diethylamide _is_ lysergic acid diethylamide (or...N,N-diethyl-D-lysergamide or...9,10-Didehydo-N,N-diethyl-6-methylergoline-8B-carboxamide).Only one stereoisomer (the d-) is psychoactive.  Thus, racemic (l/d 50-50 mix)lsd shows half the potency of the dextro form.  In synthesis it is possibleto recover the l-form for the lysergic acid.Lysergic Acid Diethylamide is LSD rather than LAD because the German wordfor acid is saeure (sp).	LSD-25				Lysergic acid        O      CH2-CH3                  O       ||     /                        ||       ||    /                         ||        -C--N                           C---OH        |    \                          |        |     \                         |        |___   CH2-CH3                  |___       /    \                          /    \      /      \                        /      \    <<        N---CH3               <<        N---CH3     \\      /                       \\      /      \\____/                         \\____/      /     \                         /     \     /       \                       /       \    <         >                     <         >  // \       /                    // \       / //   \_____/                    //   \_____/ |    ||   ||                    |    ||   || |    ||   ||                    |    ||   || |    ||   ||                    |    ||   || \\   /\   /                     \\   /\   /  \\ /  \ /                       \\ /  \ /         N                               N         H                               HErgot is a product of the fungus Claviceps purpurea.  The bio-activeingredients of ergot are all derivatives of lysergic acid.  LSD is asemisynthetic derivative of lysergic acid.  Thus LSD is an"ergot"-like substance.******************************MECHANISM OF ACTION:(Note: the mechanism of action of LSD and other psychedelics is uncertain.)From a chapter titled Hallucinogens and Other Psychotomimetics: BiologicalMechanisms by S.J.Watson"The current thesis of the effect of indole hallucinogens on5-hydroxytrypamine might be stated as follows: LSD acts to preferentiallyinhibit serotonergic cell firing and seems to spare postsynaptic serotnergicreceptors.  This preference is shared by other simillar hallucinogens but ina limited fashion.  Nonhallucinogenic analogs of LSD show no preference.These results suggest that there are two different steric conformation ofserotonergic receptors, one of which has higher affinity for LSD than theother.  In general, 5-ht is an inhibitory transmitter; thus, when itsactivity is decreased, the next neuron in the chain is freed from inhibitionand becomes more active.  Since serotnergic systems appear to be intimatelyinvolved int eh control of sensation, sleep, attention, and mood, it may bepossible to explain the actions of LSD and other hallucinogens by theirdisinhibition of these critical systems.There is also evidence for interaction with dopaminergic systems...............................LSD acts as a 5HT autoreceptor agonist in the raphe nucleus.  Theseautoreceptors are typically considered to be 5HT1As.  It also acts as a 5HT2agonist, which is thought to be the main site of hallucinogenic activity.It's probably best called a a mixed 5HT2/5HT1 receptor partial agonist.I don't know of its effects on dopamine.  Wouldn't be surprised if it has'em; the systems aren't really functionally separable.  The DA effectswouldn't be necessary for hallucinogenic activity, I'd bet...............................(From Snyder, "Drugs and the Brain", 1986, Sci Am Books Inc., Reprinted w/opermission, blah, blah, blah... )  In more recent studies, Aghajanian has focuses not on the serotonin neu-rons of the raphe nuclei but on the norepinephrine neurons of the locuscoeruleus. As we saw in Chapter 6, the locus coeruleus cell bodies give rise toaxons that ramify all over the brain and provide the majority of the norepi-nephrine neuronal input in most brain regions. Amphetamine releases norepi-nephrine from these nerve terminals by diplacing the norepinephrine from theneurotransmitter storage vesicles. Presumably, the overall influence of amphet-amine on brain function is therefore somewhat different than what occurswhen the locus coeruleus fires rapidly.  The amphetamine-induced seepage ofnorepinephrine out of nerve terminals probably elicts a milder type of activa-tion than does the repetitive and presumably more robust ejection of norepi-nephrine that occurs with rapid firing of the locus coeruleus. Drug-inducedchanges in animal behavior support this conceptual model.  Amphetamine elic-its behavioral activation, represented by the rats or mice running about thecage. In contrast, electrical stimulation of the locus coeruleus produces a moredramatic startle response. It is difficult to observe a rat and make inferencesabout what the animal is feeling, but rats in whom the locus coeruleus has beenstimulated seem to go into a state of panic. They stare about, hyper-responsiveto all stimuli in the enviornment, whether visual, auditory, or tactile.  Rats show the same hyper-responsiveness to environmental-stimuli--jumping abruptly at the sound of fingers snapping or in response to a puff ofair in the face--when they have been treated with a psychedelic drug.  And asyou will recall, hyper-responsiveness to sensory stimuli of all modalities isjust what one observes in humans under the influence of psychedelic drugs.  At-tracted by the similarity between the behavior of rats on LSD and their reac-tion to stimulation of the locus coeruleus, Aghajanian embarked in 1980 upona series of studies to evaluate how psychedelic drugs affect the locuscoeruleus. He showed that any kind of sensory stimulation--sight, sound, smell,taste, or tactile sensation--speeds up the firing of locus coeruleus neurons inrats, and that the accelerated firing is greatly enhanced by treating theanimals with LSD or mescaline.  In contrast, nonpsychedelic drugs, such asamphetamines and antidepressants, fail to exert this effect.  Moreover, the LSDanalogue methysergide, which has no psychedelic effects in humans, iscorrespondingly ineffective in enhancing the reactivity of locus coeruleusneurons to sensory stimulation.  Although psychedelic drugs increase the response of locus coeruleus cells tosensory stimulation, they do not cause the neurons to fire spontaneously in theabsence of such stimulation.  Moreover, directly applying LSD or mescaline tolocus coeruleus neurons does not enhance the neurons' reponse to sensorystimulation. We must therefore conclude that the effect of psychedelic drugs onsensory stimulation is indirect--the drugs presumably interact with a differentset of neurons that in turn make direct contact with the locus coeruleus.  What is particularly fascinating about Aghajanian's findings is how nicelythey correspond to what we know about the effects of psychedelic drugs inhumans, and how readily they explain the way psychedelic drugs accentuate allour sensory perceptions. The locus coeruleus is a funneling mechanism thatintegrates all sensory input. Viewed in this way, the observations ofAghajanian can explain synesthesia. If the locus coeruleus lumps all types ofsensory messages--from sights, sounds, tactile pressures, smells, tastes--intoa generalized excitation system within the brain, one can readily appreciatethat stimulation of the locus coeruleus will cause the drug user to feel thatsensations are crossing the boundaries between different modalities.  Aghajanian's research may also illuminate how LSD influences the user'ssence of self. The greatly accelerated firing of the locus coeruleus presumablyprovokes a powerful, patterned release of norepinephrine from nerve terminalsthroughout the brain. As we discussed earlier, the consequent alerting actionwould be much more pronounced than what occurs with the far more gradualleaking out of norepinephrine produced when amphetamine displaces thetransmitter from the storage vesicles. This extremely enhanced level of alert-ness might possibly account for the "transendent" mental state produced bypsychedelic drugs. In other words, in a state of such heightened awareness, thedrug user may become conscious of an "inner self" to which he or she isnormally oblivious.Did that answer any of your questions?  Probably not, but I thought it wasinteresting.P.S. Snyder has tripped before =)..............................>"If there's no documentation, you can't tell bugs from features." ---C.P...............................>>Lysergic-acid diethylamide >> >>When ingested into the human body, LSD actas 5-HT (Serotonin) autoreceptor >>inhibitor, thus it is a 5-HT agonist.LSD increases the level of active 5-HT >>molecules by disaffecting theirautoreceptors (a safeguard type feature in the >>brain which reduces levelsof certain neurotransmitter and the like).That "thus" in the first sentence should be an "and."  I'm not certainwhat "disaffecting" should be (autoreceptors' only true loyalty isto the laws of chemistry & physics) for the second sentence to betrue.The autoreceptors in question are 5-HT1As.  5-HT2s, which are notautoreceptors and which hallucinogens agonize, seem to be the moreimportant ones for hallucinogenic activity. Hallucinogens need notaffect 1As directly (some definitely don't).  However, 5-HT2 receptoractivation seems to facilitate presynaptic 1A function (such that,for example, hallucinogen use produces rapid 5-HT2 downregulationwhich, in turn, decreases 5-HT1A function).  So hallucinogens wouldinhibit autorecetpor activity, but not necessarily directly.>LSD also has effects on 5-HT1C receptors, and its not entirely sure what the>specific receptor mechanism is -- there's also the question of why the>psychological effects seem to last much longer than the presence of the LSD>molecule.  One thing that is fairly sure is that LSD shuts down the firing of>the seratonin neurons in the raphe, though.It is difficult to separate 1Cs from 2s because of their great similarity.However, hallucinogens seem to be all 2 & 1C agonists.  Molecules which (likeLSD) are partial 2 agonists, and which (unlike LSD) are 1c antagonistsare not hallucinogenic.I believe that the effects of DOI (and probably LSD) on firing in theraphe nucleus are not blocked by 5-HT2 antagonists (like ketanserin),implying that these effects are not mediated by 5-HT2 receptors.Oddly enough, ritanserin (which antagonizes 2 and 1C) doesn't block'em either.  That's kind of mysterious to me.>  5-HT has been implicated in>>certain behaviors, notably dreaming and sleep, which explains the hallucinatory>>effect.  We are in effect dreaming while completely awake and aware.>Actually, a better explanation is the increased firing of the locus coereleus>by its disinhibition due to the neurons in the raphe slowing down (since you>are inhibiting an inhibitory neuron the result is excitation...).  The l.c.>has been associated with being a "sensory highway" in the brain, and has also>been associated with feelings of anxiety, and theorized that its invovled>with depression.  My guess is that the hallucinations and stimulatory effects>of LSD come from potentiating the l.c., while the effect on the 5-HT neurons>in the raphe is responsible for its entheogenic effect on the mind.This isn't the full story since this decrease in firing (in the raphe) is stillproduced by hallucinogens even after chronic treatment with hallucinogens.Since tolerance does develop to hallucinogens, we would haveexpected to see it in the firing.  Of course, rate of firing and amountof 5-HT released _are_ two different things.  Besides, tolerance mayoccur via another route.******************************RELATED COMPOUNDS:Related compounds are the indole hallucinogens including DMT(dimethyl-tryptamine), DET (diethyl-), etc.; psilocybin; lysergic acid.  DMTis very fast acting, lasting less than an hour.  Psilocybin, found inhallucinogenic (aka magic or mexican) mushrooms, has effects similar to LSDbut they work for approximately half the duration.  These are all indolederivatives like the neurotransmitter serotonin, 5-hydroxy-tryptamine."Indole" is the name of the 6-carbon ring attached to the 5-ring containinga nitrogen. The lysergic acid molecule contains an indole structure plusadditional rings.LSD's two ethyl groups hanging off the amine may be replaced withother carbon chains for compounds with different durations, potencies,and effects.While LSD is semi-synthetic, DMT and psilocybin are found in nature.See the sections on BOTANY and ANTHROPOLOGY for info on relatednatural (plant) compounds and their uses...............................   1) DMT, DET, psylocin, psylocybin, : The mushroom psylocybin cubensiscontains all four of these indole derivatives, as well as others. DMT isdimethyltryptamine, an indole derivative which has functionalized at the 3position with the dimethyl ethylamine group.  It is a close relative to theamino acid, tryptophan, which until recently was available in bulk atvitamin shops, until some jerk poisoned himself by taking a wonga dose ofit. [Actually it may have been a single toxic batch mistakenly produced inJapan.] A prep came out in 1984 for LSD using l--tryptophan as theprecursor, so this may have facilitated the government's pullin it from theshelves. I can't find tryptophan anywhere, now, and I've tried, bud.     DMT, and it's brother DET (diethyltryptamine), have no oral activity,so have to be smoked. They stink like fish oil when lit, though. Both havehallucinogenic effects within 2-3 minutes of toking, wand while DMT lastsfor only a half hour, DET is a smoother, more euphoric high, lasting twiceas long. DET has effects similar to psylocybin.     Psylocybin is DMT which has a functional group, phosphoryloxy-, at the4 position on the indole ring. This group is immediately converted tohydroxyl- as soon as the stuff hits your stomach to give the cousin,psylocin. In preparing the drug, then, it is not necessary to proceed beyondthe psylocin.     DMT and DET are easily derived from many indole derivatives, theeasiest of which is indole-3-acetic acid. I've done this reaction and itstinks to high heaven of indole gunge, skatoles (methylindoles), andindenes. Bad news if you want to make it at home, because the stench ispervasive. Other derivatives, using phenyl or butyl groups have beenreported as having oral activity, so it is not necessary to smoke the stuff.Doses run at about a hundred mgs for smoked drug, while psylocin is orallyactive at about 5 mgs.[this warning was recently posted to alt.drugs -cak]Message-ID: <221302Z24111994@anon.penet.fi>Newsgroups: alt.drugsFrom: an152823@anon.penet.fiDate: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 22:11:17 UTCSubject: !! DMT WARNING !!DMT WARNING!!Under the heading "related compunds" in the LSD.FAQ, where it refers to thetryptamines, specifically smoked DMT, it says, "Doses run at about a hundredmgs for smoked drug," Smoking 100mg of DMT is a very bad idea. Realistically20-30mg is a low-end average dose and 50-60mg gets pretty hairy.The faq needs fixin big time.-------------------------------------------------------------------------To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized,and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. 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The brevity of the experience make its intensitybearable, and, for some, desirable. At least two synthetic drugs in which the methyl group of DMT is replaced bya higher radical are psychedelic:              /\       (CH2)2-N(C2H5)2     /\      (CH2)2-N(CH2CH2CH2)2             // \ ____/                   // \ ____/            |   ||   ||                  |   ||   ||            |   ||   ||                  |   ||   ||             \\ /\   /                    \\ /\   /              \/  \N/                      \/  \N/                   H                            H        N,N-diethyltryptamine          N,N-dipropyltryptamine The drug DET is active at the same dose as DMT and the effects last slightlylonger, about one and a half to two hours. DPT is longer-acting still and hasfewer autonomic side effects. In therapeutic experiments its action continuesfor one and a half to two hours at the lowest effective dose, 15 to 30mg, andfor four to six hours at doses in the range of 60 to 150mg. Both DET and DPTare milder than DMT. The drug 6-FDET (6-fluorodiethyltryptamine) resembles DETin its effects. All these drugs, like DMT, are inactive orally and must besmoked or injected. Dibutyltryptamine (DBT) and higher substitutions areinert, but other synthetic drugs related to DMT may be psychoactive...............................From the Merck Medical Manual, 16th edition, page 2652:"Serotonin (5-HT) is the neurotransmitter of many central neruons (eg raphenucleus).  ITs synthesis begins with the uptake of tryptophan intoserotonergic neurons.  Tryptophan is hydroxylated by the enzymetryptophan hydroxylase to 5-hydroxytryptophan and then decarboxylatedto serotontin (5-hydroxytryptamine) by the enzyme aromatic L-aminoacid decarboxylase.  Levels of 5-HT are controlled by the uptakeof tryptophan and intraneuronal MAO.  Metabolism occurs mainly viaMAO to 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid."The Merck also states that tyrosine is the precursor of norepinephrine,acetylcholine's precursor is choline, tyrosine is the precursor ofdopamine, GABA is made from glutamic acid...............................++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++DMT FAQ (Draft, inserted into LSD FAQ)8 Aug 94DMT, DiMethylTryptamine, or 3-(2-(dimethylamino)ethyl)-indole is a chemicalin the same class of drugs as Psilocybin and LSD.  Structurally related toserotonin, their effects on the body are similar and cross-tolerance can andis developed between DMT, LSD and Psilocybin.DMT is not absorbed into the blood stream when taken orally and therefore isusually inhaled as a powder or smoked. A little drivel from your neighborhood chemist regarding somequestions recently asked. If I'm erroneous in anything I spout,let me know. Thanks.   1) DMT, DET, psylocin, psylocybin, : The mushroom psylocybincubensis contains all four of these indole derivatives, as well asothers. DMT is dimethyltryptamine, an indole derivative which hasfunctionalized at the 3 position with the dimethyl ethylamine group.It is a close relative to the amino acid, tryptophan, which untilrecently was available in bulk at vitamin shops, until some jerkpoisoned himself by taking a wonga dose of it. A prep came out in1984 for LSD using l--tryptophan as the precursor, so this may havefacilitated the government's pullin it from the shelves. I can't findtryptophan anywhere, now, and I've tried, bud.     DMT, and it's brother DET (diethyltryptamine), have no oralactivity, so have to be smoked. They stink like fish oil whenlit, though. Both have hallucinogenic effects within 2-3 minutes oftoking, wand while DMT lasts for only a half hour, DET is a smoother,more euphoric high, lasting twice as long. DET has effects similarto psylocybin.     Psylocybin is DMT which has a functional group, phosphoryloxy-,at the 4 position on the indole ring. This group is immediately convertedto hydroxyl- as soon as the stuff hits your stomache to give thecousin, psylocin. In preparing the drug, then, it is not necessaryto proceed beyond the psylocin.     DMT and DET are easily derived from many indole derivatives, theeasiest of which is indole-3-acetic acid. I've done this reaction and itstinks to high heaven of indole gunge, skatoles (methylindoles), andindenes. Bad news if you want to make it at home, because the stench ispervasive. Other derivatives, using phenyl or butyl groups have beenreported as having oral activity, so it is not necessary to smoke thestuff. Doses run at about a hundred mgs for smoked drug, while psylocinis orally active at about 5 mgs.[this warning was recently posted to alt.drugs -cak]Message-ID: <221302Z24111994@anon.penet.fi>Newsgroups: alt.drugsFrom: an152823@anon.penet.fiDate: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 22:11:17 UTCSubject: !! DMT WARNING !!DMT WARNING!!Under the heading "related compunds" in the LSD.FAQ, where it refers to thetryptamines, specifically smoked DMT, it says, "Doses run at about a hundredmgs for smoked drug," Smoking 100mg of DMT is a very bad idea. Realistically20-30mg is a low-end average dose and 50-60mg gets pretty hairy.The faq needs fixin big time.-------------------------------------------------------------------------To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized,and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi.[back to the regularly scheduled FAQ -cak]     For a good reference work on these compounds, their preps, andeffects, see Michael Valentine Smith's "Psychedelic Chemistry," publisherunknown.                                   Your Friendly Neighborhood Chemical                                                Dude,                                   St. Theo..............................existing literature on each drug (some would have hundreds of references andsome perhaps two), the facts that are known concerning history, humanpharmacology and human psychopharmacology will be amalgamated into a"profile." The drugs to be presented will be chosen randomly, rather than withpreference given to popularity, unusual potency, or current availability.Botanical mixtures will not be considered as such, but as their known activecompnents. As there are upwards of a hundred psychedelic drugs currentlyknown, it is expected that these "profiles" will eventually form an extensivereference atlas of compactly prsented drug information.                               1. DMTDescription and properties: DMT, N,N-diemethyltryptamine, Nigerine, desoxybufotenine,3-(2-dimethylaminoethyl)-indole is a white, pungent-smelling, crystallinesolid with a melting point of 49-50 degrees Celsius, hydrochloride salthygroscopic, picrate m.p. 171-172 degrees Celsius and methiodide m.p. 215-216degrees Celsius. It is insoluble in water, but soluble in organic solvents andaqueous acids.History: DMT was first synthesized  in 1931, and demonstrated to be hallucinogenic in1956. It has been shown to be present in many plant genera (Acacia,Anandenanthera, Mimosa, Piptadenia, Virola) and is a major component ofseveral hallucinogenic snuffs (cohoba, parica, yopo). It is also present inthe intoxicating beverage "ayahuasca" made from Banisteriopsis caapi, and itmay have oral effectiveness due to the presence of several naturally occuringinhibitors of catabolic deamination.Human Biochemistry and Pharmacology: Both the parent compound tryptamine and the N-methyltransferase system whichis capable of converting it to DMT, occur in humans, but there is as yet noevidence that DMT is formed "in vivo". DMT has nonetheless been identified intrace amounts in the blood and urine of both normals and of schizophrenicpatients, but its origins and functions are unknown. Following intramuscularadministration, maximum blood levels of about 100 ng/ml are observed in 10minutes, coincident with the maximum changes in electroencephalographicresponses. The plasma clearance t-1/2 [half-life] is about 15 minutes.Elevated blood levels of indoleacetic acid (IAA) are seen during the time ofpeak effects, implying its role as a metabolite. Urine levels of IAA are alsoelevated and account for about 30% of the administered drug. An increase in5-hydroxy-IAA excretion suggests the involvement of serotonin in DMT action.Unchanged DMT is not excreted.Human Psychopharmacology: DMT is inactive orally at dosages of over 1000mg. With intramuscularinjection, there is an abrupt threshold of activity shown with 30mg, and acomplete psychedelic experience results from the administration of 50-70mg(75mg subcutaneously, 30mg by inhalation). An unusual feature of the inducedintoxication is the speed of onset and short duration. Within 5 minutes ofadministration there is mydriasis [dilated pupils], tachycardia [rapid heartbeat], a measurable increase in blood pressure, and related vegetativedisturbances which usually persist througout the drug experience. In 10-15minutes, the full intoxication is realized, generally characterized byhallucinations with the eyes either open or closed, and extensive movementwithin the visual field. There is difficulty in the expression of one'sthoughts, and in concentration on a given subject. There is usually a moodchange to the euphoric with unmotivated laughter, but instances have beenreported in which paranoid ideation has promoted anxieties and feelings offorboding into a state of panic. The subject is largely symptom-free at 60minutes, although some residual effects have been seen in the second hour.With the inhalation route of administration the time scale is contracted, withonset of effects noted in 10 seconds, a short period of full intoxication at2-3 minute, and a complete freedom from any residual effects within 10minutes. At higher drug levels, there are increased vegetative symptoms, andthese effectively overwhelm the psychedelic experience at dosages of 150mgi.m.  Interactions with other drugs are rarely seen; a sensitivity has beenobserved with pretreatment with methlysergide, but there is no cross-tolerancewith LSD. Repeated usage does not appear to lead to either physical orpsychological dependency.Legal Status: DMT is explicitly named as a Schedule I drug in the Federal ControlledSubstances Act; registry number 7435./\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\                                 DMT         [Excerpt from a pharmacology textbook published in 1988]Chemical structure and source: This is the prototype member of the tryptamine subclass of indolederivatives. The structural formula is:                         /\       (CH2)2-N(CH3)2                        // \ ____/                       |   ||   ||                       |   ||   ||                        \\ /\   /                         \/  \N/                              H                   N,N-dimethyltryptamineThe drug is a constituent of many of the same South American snuffs and drinksthat contain other psychedelic indole deriviatives, it is often found in thesame plants as 5-MeO-DMT, and Indians add a substance containing it to drinkscontaining harmala alkaloids. DMT is the major constituent of the bark ofVirola calophylla, mentioned above; it is also found in the seeds ofAnadenanthera peregina; in the seeds of the vine Mimosa hostilis, used ineaster Brazil to make a drink called "ajuca" or "jurema"; in the leaves ofBanisteriopsis rusbyana, which are added to the harmaline drinks derived fromother plants of the Banisteriopsis genus to make "oco-yage"; and in the leavesof Psychotria viridis, also added to the Banisteriopsis drinks. Like5-MeO-DMT, DMT must be combined with monoamine oxydase inhibitors to becomeactive orally.Dose: First strong effects are felt at about 50mg, whether it is smoked orinjected. Tolerance develops only after extremely frequent use - injectionsevery two hours for three weeks in rats; at that dose frequency, but nototherwise, there is also a cross-tolerance between DMT and LSD (Rosenberg et.al. 1964; Kovacic and Domino, 1976).Physiological effects: Resembles LSD, but sympathomimetic symptoms like dilated pupils, heightenedblood pressure, and increased pulse rate are more common and more intense.Psychological Effects: Like LSD but often more intense. Since it is not taken by mouth, the effectscome on suddenly and can be overwhelming. The term "mind blowing" might havebeen invented for this drug. The experience was described by Alan Watts aslike "being fired out of the nozzle of an atomic cannon" (Leary 1968a p.215).Thoughts and visions crowd in at great speed; a sense of leaving ortranscending time and a feeling that objects have lost all form and dissolvedinto a play of vibrations are characteristic. The effect can be like instanttransportation to another universe for a timeless sojourn.Duration of action: When DMT is smoked or injected, effects begin in seconds, reach a peak infive to twenty minutes and end after a half hour or so. This has earned it thename "businessman's trip." The brevity of the experience make its intensitybearable, and, for some, desirable. At least two synthetic drugs in which the methyl group of DMT is replaced bya higher radical are psychedelic:              /\       (CH2)2-N(C2H5)2     /\      (CH2)2-N(CH2CH2CH2)2             // \ ____/                   // \ ____/            |   ||   ||                  |   ||   ||            |   ||   ||                  |   ||   ||             \\ /\   /                    \\ /\   /              \/  \N/                      \/  \N/                   H                            H        N,N-diethyltryptamine          N,N-dipropyltryptamine The drug DET is active at the same dose as DMT and the effects last slightlylonger, about one and a half to two hours. DPT is longer-acting still and hasfewer autonomic side effects. In therapeutic experiments its action continuesfor one and a half to two hours at the lowest effective dose, 15 to 30mg, andfor four to six hours at doses in the range of 60 to 150mg. Both DET and DPTare milder than DMT. The drug 6-FDET (6-fluorodiethyltryptamine) resembles DETin its effects. All these drugs, like DMT, are inactive orally and must besmoked or injected. Dibutyltryptamine (DBT) and higher substitutions areinert, but other synthetic drugs related to DMT may be psychoactive. ..............................        Remember the L-Tryptophan scare a little while ago?  Well I havebeen thinking about it and have come up with a conspiracy theory.  Itmay be off base but it was fun to come up with it.        Ever since the War on Drugs the government has become increasinglyprotective of precursors for drug manufacture.  Some friends of mine andI were talking about Tryptophan, and it came up that it could be used asthe base for several drugs.        So maby the government generated the Trypto scare so people wouldbe scared to buy/use it and stores would take it off their shelves.  Hasanyone on the net known anyone who got sick from L-Tryptophan?        The following is a simple reaction to synthesize DMT from Tryptophan.using no hard to get or controlled chemicals save L-Tryptophan.WARNING...WARNING...WARNING... This is something I just came up with and may work but I am nochemist, j!ust a Software Engineering type, so research it yourself or letshave some net/chem/god help us out.  These two reactions can be foundand read about in any good library.        The first reaction is using Trypto and Sodium HydroChlorite (AKAChlorox) in a 1:1 reaction to produce Indole Acetaldehype(IAA).  Thisreaction was use by some company to produce IAA to use to stimulate plantgrowth.  The yield should be 70-80%.        The second reaction is the IAA and Dimethyl Formamide in a 1:4reaction to produce DMT.  Dimethyl-F is supposedly a very common organicsolvent easy to get and not controlled.  This reaction is documented in apaper called the 'Leukart Reaction'.  This paper should also have theinstructions on cleaning the DMT from the other byproducts of thesereactions.Remember this is just to strengthen my conspiracy theory.  It is notguaranteed correct.             Tryptophan                       NH                       | 2                       |        // \\---  --- CH -- CO H        || ||   ||            2        \\ //\ /              N              H              |              |         + 1 Molar Equiv              |             \|/          Sodium Hydrochlorite (chlorox)        Indole Acetaldehyde              (IAA)        // \\---  --- CH CHO        || ||   ||      2        \\ //\ /              N              H                               CH              |              /   3    Di-Methyl Amine              |    <------ NH              |              \              |                CH              |                  3              |              |                 Leukart Reaction              |                     4 Equivs              |                        Dimethyl Formamide              |                     1 Equivs              |                        IAA             \|/             DMT                                CH                              /   3        // \\---  --- CH CH N        || ||   ||      2  2  \        \\ //\ /                CH              N                   3              HDisclamer :                The above may not be even remotely correct.  I myself                Don't do drugs, Legal or not.  I don't advocate makings                using or selling drugs.   But I do think they should all                be Legal and everyone should educated on there effects.                The choice should be ours.... Mycal(C) 1990 Mycal Johnson All Rights Reserved.  Distribute this post in anyway        for non commercial use.In article <1990Nov16.011656.2696@everexn.com> mycal@everexn.com (Mike Johnson) writes:>        Remember the L-Tryptophan scare a little while ago?  Well I have>been thinking about it and have come up with a conspiracy theory.  It>may be off base but it was fun to come up with it.I'm pretty sure the ~5000 reported cases of EMS (eosinophilia-myalgiasyndrome) and 27 deaths, and their connection to a batch of Showa Denkotryptophan is real.  But, I do like a good conspiracy...>        Ever since the War on Drugs the government has become increasingly>protective of precursors for drug manufacture.Not too many years ago any old Joe could buy isosafrole (precursor to MDA)or phenylacetone (precursor to amphetamine) and all necessary apparatusand ancilliary chemicals with no more than a money order, [fake] signature,and the address of, say, a vacant house or apartment.  Nowadays it seemseven MEK (methylethylketone) is difficult to obtain.>        So maby the government generated the Trypto scare so people would>be scared to buy/use it and stores would take it off their shelves.  Has>anyone on the net known anyone who got sick from L-Tryptophan?Considering the numbers above, it's not surprising that noone has reportedany first-hand experience with tryptophan-related EMS.If we believe the EMS problem is real, and government-generated, thiswould make for an intriguing conspiracy.  Let us also add that many areeagerly pointing the finger at genetic engineering as the root cause ofthe problem.  Showa Denko used a bacillus genetically engineered to producehigher yields of tryptophan.  Now, can someone postulate a role forLyndon LaRouche?>        The following is a simple reaction to synthesize DMT from Tryptophan.> ...>WARNING... This is something I just came up with and may work but I am no                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Admit it, you did research!  Well, conspiracies do need some grounding infact.>        The first reaction is using Trypto and Sodium HydroChlorite (AKA>Chlorox)                                             [hypochlorite]You are perhaps refering to    R. A. Gray [Pineapple Research Institute of Hawaii]    Preparation and Properties of 3-Indoleacetaldehyde [IAc]    Arch. Biochem. Biophysics 81, 480-8 (1959)Not merely "AKA Chlorox [sic]", but Clorox was the actual reagent!Aldehydes can be difficult to prepare (contrast to ketones) as they areeasily oxidized to acids.  Special care was taken by Gray to prevent this,and IAc was actually obtained as the bisulfite addition product, "whichwas stable for many years.">        The second reaction is the IAA and Dimethyl Formamide in a 1:4>reaction to produce DMT.Dimethylamine is really the reagent of interest here (which you didindicate in your drawings).>solvent easy to get and not controlled.  This reaction is documented in a>paper called the 'Leukart Reaction'.  This paper should also have theThe Leukart-Wallach reaction is well-known.  The original publications are    Leukart    Chem. Ber. 18, 2341 (1885) {Ger.}    Wallach    Ann. Chem. 272, 100 (1892) {Ger.}Formic acid or a formamide is used as a reducing agent. DMF(dimethylformamide) is probably to be prefered as IAc is not stable inacidic solution.>Disclamer :>                The above may not be even remotely correct.  I myselfAs an outline it was pretty darn good.  You've shown there's no reasonpeople outside a particular field can't learn some factual informationabout current topics.  Although I'm sure it's not necessary, I will addthat a list of reagents does not a synthesis make!So, yes, it's not difficult to make DMT from tryptophan.  But it's alsonot difficult to make DMT from many other starting materials.  Indoleitself is readily 3-substituted (but note that indole has a horrible,intense fecal odor!) and there are also many well known reactions toproduce directly 3-substituted indoles from simpler precursors.Now, do more than a handful of people actually know about DMT?  I guessit must have had some use in the '60s, but I don't recall ever hearingit mentioned in the press as a drug of abuse.  Perhaps it has made come-back?  If people will lick toads for bufotenine, well, there's just notelling...It may be the case that peoples' desire for drugs is matched by theiringenuity to discover and re-discover many substances.  If so, the WoDofficials have a lesson to learn.  Granted the analogue drug billeffectively makes many known and unknown chemicals illegal, it may yetbecome a burden simply to keep the testing and analysis procedures up todate.--smaschue@ucsd.edu (root) [Sean] writes:>Also, while I am asking...Simon & Schuster's guide to House Plants enumerate>many plants that are rumored to have narcotic properties as common house>plants or curio plants.  Datura for one and mimosa pudica (sensitva) I have>heard contain DMT?  Are there sources for these plants and publications on>their properties?>...doesn't this seem very interesting?Sure does. Where'd you hear about Mimosa pudica containing DMT?There are two species of Mimosa that have been used in the Amazonthat certainly contain DMT: Mimosa hostilis and Mimosa verrucosa.A hallucinogenic drink called Jurema was made from the roots ofMimosa hostilis.A taped interview with Dennis McKenna from 1985 makes mention of severalother members of the pea family (Leguminosae) that contain DMT:Acacia flabiphylla, which I haven't been able to find any referenceto anywhere else, and Desmodeum (only the genus was mentioned, the commonname for these are "Tick Trefoil"). An tree in this same group isAnadenanthera peregrina, seeds of which are used for psychedelic snuffs inthe Amazon, and which also grows in the West Indies, including Puerto Rico.(This tape, "Dennis McKenna/2 (1985)", is available from: Something's Happening Productions, Box 8381, Universal City, CA 91608)In another tape Dennis' brother, Terence, made passing mention ofa plant, Desmanthus illinoensis, that was recently discovered to containDMT as 6% of it's dry weight, according to his report. Desmanthus isclosely related to Mimosa, and grows in the midwestern prairies ofthe continental US.If you run across a specimen of this in a University's botanical collection,or in the field, I'd like to know about it.  Preserved or living specimensin herbarium collections almost always include the date and place theywere collected.Desmanthus illinoensis is listed in_Petersen's Field Guide to Eastern/Central Medicinal Plants_but the drawing is misleading. (It shows the pinnae of the compoundleaves as alternating instead of opposite). The best illustration I'verun across is in _An Illustrated Flora of the Northeastern United States and Canada_ Vol.IIwhere it's listed as Acuan illinoensis. Unfortunately the measurementsfor various features of the plant are in error there.Decent descriptions are found in the_New York Botanical Garden Illustrated Encyclopedia of Horticulture_ andthe _Standard Encyclopedia of Horticulture_ Vol 2.Two other plants reputed to contain DMT are Desfontainia spinosa, aholly-like ornamental plant available at some nurseries, andArundo donax, the Giant River Reed, (used for clarinet reeds among otherthings) which grows all over the place along rivers and in urbanenvironments where it's used for landscaping. The rootstocks of Arundo donaxare supposedly DMT-bearing, but there's never been a report of Arundobeing used as an hallucinogen, or even that such use is practical.---------------------------------------------------------------------------As far as Datura and other plants in the nightshade family (Solanaceae)are concerned, they contain anticholinergic alkaloids like hyoscyamine,atropine or scopolamine, none of which are considered psychedelic, butwhich do cause delirium and hallucinations and are quite toxic and risky.--------------------------------------------------Here is the second in a series of "Gracie and Zarkov" articles.-- Chris============================================DMT - HOW AND WHY TO GET OFF. . . a note from undergroundby "Gracie and Zarkov"Copyright December 1984 by Gracie and Zarkov Productions. We believe thatin a truly free society the price of packaged information would be drivendown to the cost of reproduction and transmission.  We, therefore, giveblanket permission and encourage photocopy, quotation, reprint or entryinto a database of all or part of our articles provided that the copieror quoter does not take credit for our statements.Revised August 1985.Number 3.DMT, (N,N-dimethyltryptamine is not orally active (by itself), and mustbe smoked to experience its effects.  Tolerance for the drug buildsalmost immediately.  If you don't get enough in the first 30 seconds,smoking more will not put you into the far out visionary DMT state, butwill only result in a more "ordinary" hallucinogenic state. If on anattempt, you don't get enough, you must wait at least one hour beforetrying again (smoking multiple doses within the hour can result in youseeing the patterns but it is almost impossible to break through to theextreme states described below).  Furthermore, the actual mechanics ofsmoking DMT can be quite tricky.  In our experience, without carefulattention to technique, about half the DMT shots misfire.  Therefore, itis essential to use effective technique in order not to waste the drug.In this paper we offer three different tested techniques in an easy tofollow step-by-step format;  We have also included our description(however inadequate) of what a DMT trip is like.We are well aware of how scarce a substance DMT is.  We had to undertakea long, intensive search to secure a supply of this marvelous drug in thesmokeable, freebase form.  The search was well worth it!  One of thereasons for writing this paper is, hopefully, to increase the demand forDMT.  If this paper intrigues you, we suggest that the you seek out asupply of your own.  Laok for DMT in the smokeable freebase, nothydrochloride form.  You will not be disappointed.Getting Ready1.  We recommend a uniformly, though not brightly, lit room.  Unlike withmushrooms, in total darkness the DMT visions are rather drab.  In fullsunlight the colors are unbelievably intense with red and goldpredominating but we feel that bright sunlight tends to obscure some ofthe intricate detail so characteristic of DMT visions.  We usually do itduring the day in a room that is brightly lit with indirect light.2.  Get comfortably seated where you can lie back and rest your headduring the trance.  If you smoke DMT standing up, you will almostcertainly fall on your ass if you get a good hit!3.  We recommend a dosage of about 40-50 mg.  The dosage should beweighed out and not eyeballed.  Dosages below 25 mg yield only physicaland threshold psychedelic effects.  Dosages between 25 mg and 40 mg areusually not enough to display the full range of the unique DMT effectsdescribed below.  Dosages in excess of 55 mg, particularly if you aresuccessful in holding all of the vapor in your lungs, can be VERY heavyand are not recommended for f irst time users.Method One:  The "Freebase" Method4a.  Obtain a "freebase" airpipe such as the one illustrated below.  Usewith the largest funnel type bowl you can find.  Insert the largest finemesh stainless steel screen that will fit into the bowl.  Then sprinklethe DMT uniformly over the center of the mesh screen.  Make sure to keepthE DMT away from the edges of the screen so that when it melts it does notrun over the edge of the screen.     \  /\\  __||__            _==_        ________________ \\/  ||  \          |    |____  / _______________  \   ||  |          |     ___ \/ /   |  ||  |          |    |   \  /   |      |          |    |    \/   \______/           \__/FREE BASE AIR PIPE   CLASSIC DMT PIPE5a.  Hold a match or torch above the screen and inhale deeply and slowly.Do not let the flame touch the DMT as this will destroy much of the drug.DMT melts and vaporizes easily so the point is to let the hot air rushingby the flame into the pipe vaporize the DMT.  It is quite easy tovaporize the DMT and end up with the airchamber full of white DMT vapor.Method Two:  The Classic Psychedelic Ranger Method4b.  If you hanq out around a good glass blower or long time "head" youmight be able to obtain a classic DMT pipe such as the one illustrated.Load the DMT into the glass reaction chamber and heat the outside bottomof the chamber with a flame.5b.  When the white vapor appears, breathe in deeply and slowly.  If youinhale too soon or too quickly, the powdered DMT will be blown down yourthroat.  It is not active that way.  Make sure that all of the DMT isvaporized.  In the absence of a classic DMT pipe, some people use aregular "hash oil" pipe heated from the outside.  We find this too trickyto be reliable.  You are just as likely to end up with boiling liquid DMTin your mouth.  (That's why the classic pipe has a "V" shaped stem.)  Wepersonally use the "freebase" method.In either case...6.  The smoke is very harsh.  It tastes like burning plastic.  It isn'tparticularly hot, but you will have a tendency to cough.  On each toketry to hold your breath for as long as possible.  Exhale and immediatelytake a second toke.  The physical effects, a buzzing or vibrationthroughout your whole body, come on first.  The intensity of theseeffects is not a reliable guide to the dosage of DMT that you haveconsumed.  Keep taking lungfuls and holding them until all of thepremeasured DMT is consumed.  Gracie suggests that the best way to smokeDMT is to try to smoke as much as you can before you inevitablly fallinto a trance.  While not recommended for beginners, it does capture theapproach you should take towards smoking your premeasured dose.One advantage of the "freebase" method is that the 50 mg of DMT can bedivided into three toke sized piles.  The smaller amount can be easilyvaporized and inhaled in one breath with the screen being reloaded withDMT after each toke.7.  Just as you feel yourself "going over the top", exhale.  Breathenormally, close your eyes and enjoy the visions.Your companions should be instructed to take the pipe from you when youclose your eyes because you will have poor motor control. Since you willbe in a trance for 4-8 minutes, you should also have told them not todisturb you.  To them you will look like you are asleep.  This is not asocial drug or one to be taken casually; you will be entranced.8.  When you come our of the trance, remain seated for about 10 moreminutes as you will still have only shaky control of your limbs.9.  In 30 minutes from the time you started you will be pretty much down,but still euphoric.  You will be completely down after a total of aboutone hour.1O.  We do not recommend that DMT be combined with other drugs.  Itshould be done on a clean head.  Marijuana fogs the effects.  It is not aparty drug:  the effects are most entertaining experienced in a quietroom.  When DMT is smoked at the peak of a mushroom or LSD trip, theeffects are spectacular, but only recsmmended for the experienced, mostbrave (or some might say, most foolhardy) of investigators.  The effectsused at the peak of another psychedelic can last for several hours.NOTES ON THE VISUAL STAGES OF A DMT TRIP:0 - 20 seconds - a scratchiness in the lungs20 - 30 seconds - a buzzing starts in the ears, rising in tone and volumeto an incredible intensity. Its like cellophane being ripped apart (orthe fabric of the universe being torn asunder). Your body will vibrate insympathy with this sound, and you will notice a sharp blood pressurerise.  You may feel like you are deeply under water.  Wearing a unitardor leotard and tights helps to minimize this sensation.  Your visualfield will also vibrate in resonance to the sound and will finally becompletely obscured by the visions.30 seconds - 1 minute - You break through into DMT hyperspace.  Often atthis point, users believe that their hearts or breathing have stopped.This is not true.  To an outside observer, you are breathing normally andyour pulse, while elevated, is strong.  We believe that this subjectiveeffect is due to your "internal clock" being slowed so greatly that thesubjective time interval between breaths or heartbeats seems like aneternity.  Synthetic DMT has been extensively tested by medicalauthorities here and in Europe.  It is perfectly safe with no lastingphysical effects at these doses.  However, since smoked DMT causes anabrupt blood pressure increase, it is probably not good for people withabnormally high blood pressure.1 minute - 2 - 5 minutes - depending on dosage:  DMT hyperspace.  For allpractical purposes, you will no longer be embodied.  You will be part oftne intergalactic information network.  You may experience any of thefollowing:o  Sense of transcending time or spaceo  Strange plants or plantlike formso  The universe of formless vibrationo  Strange machineso  Alien musico  Alien languages, understandable or noto  Intelligent entities in a variety of formsDo not be amazed and do not try to actively direct your observations butmerely pay attention.  The beings can show you amazing things, but if youtry to impose vour personal trip on the DMT you will find that you cannotand may become frightened.At the end of the "flash" of the visions you will have an after-vision ofcircular interlocking patterns in exquisite colors. It has been describedas looking at a vaulted ceiling or dome.  If you did not "breakthrough"to the levels described above, this "chrysanthemum" pattern, as we callit, is all you will see.  It is worth the trip, too.You may begin to wonder how you will ever find your way back to yourbody.  If you have taken enough DMT to fully "breakthrough", by the timeyou can even wonder about it, you are almost back.  Trust in your ownwetware; your psyche and your body will be reunited. Worrying will onlyprolong the process.5 - 12 minutes - The visions have subsided. There are still patterns whenyou close your eyes, but with eyes open the world is back. At this pointa flood of information may rush through your mind. The phase is fleeting.In order to preserve your DMT ideation, we recommend that you begintalking as soon as you come out of the visionary state.  Don't try forcomplete sentences but get as many ideas out as you can while you can.Have a tape recorder running during the trip and you can review yourthoughts at a later time.15 - 30 minutes - The ideation flood subsides leaving you euphoric.  Youmay still have a trace of the vibrations in your body.30 - 60 minutes - The euphoria subsides.60+ minutes - You are completely down.Note:  While we recommend above not to combine DMT with otherhallucinogens, we have had excellent results using DMT as a "pre-dose"for LSD, MDM, MDA, or mushrooms.  The technique is to take the secondhallucinogen orally just as you come out of the vision state.  Theresulting trip will be more profound and will help you to understand thestrange and alien vistas which you were shown while on the DMT. (For moredetails, see our Note from underground no. 4.)Method Three:  The Tryptamine GigglesIf the description of the DMT effects sound too heavy for you, (wecertainly don't deny that DMT can be a heavy trip) 25 mg of DMT can bemixed with some dope in a joint or in a pipe and smoked in a liesurelyfashion.  The giggley mood lift is quite pleasant.  The occasionalbreaking through of abstract hallucinatory patterns can liven up anotherwise quite ordinary stoned-again evening.  However, we wouldrecommend that before you burn up all your DMT in this fashion that youat least try one high dose trip as described.Finally, while there is no such thing as a "typical" DMT experience, wehave attached a note of ours (reprinted from High Frontiers, issue 2) tothis paper which describes one of our DMT trips.  The most accessibleinformation on DMT is Peter Stafford's Psychedelics Encyclopedia.Terence McKenna, who offers, in our opinion, the most sophisticatedanalysis of the DMT experience, has two excellent cassette tapes whichdiscuss the DMT state:  Mind, Molecules &Maqic. June 1984; and TryptamineHallucinogens and Consciousness,  December 1982.  They are available fromDolphin Tapes, P.O. Box 71, Big Sur, CA  93920 for $9.00 plus tax and$2.00 postage.=============================================================================a hit of dmt 10/9/84 - zarkovi loaded about 40-50 milligrams of dmt into a glass pipe on top of asmall amount of damiana.  even though i had been warned, i was stillshocked at how harsh the first toke was.  it tasted and smelled likeburning plastic.  i involuntarily exhaled.  i immediately took a secondtoke.  the heavy white smoke rushed up the pipe as harsh as before, but iwas somewhat better prepared for the terrible taste and i was able tohold the smoke for a few seconds.  i exhaled, took a third toke, and wasable to hold this last lungful.  suddenly i began to hear a loud,moderately high-pitched carrier wave.  immediately, the room startedvibrating in sympathy.  the pattern on the wall hangings oscillated madlyin time to the buzzing that overlaid the carrier waves fundamental tone.simultaneously, a heavy, trembling feeling swept over my entire body asif i were being propelled at multiple g acceleration by some giant rocketengine.  my visual field dissolved in the most amazing colors.  i couldnot see the room over the intensity of the visual effects.  the events ofthe preceding paragraph occurred in the space of a few short seconds.closing my eyes, i got a glimpse of several entities moving in front of agiant complex control panel.  the visions were not crystal clear andseemed as if i were viewing it through a scrim.  the creatures werebipedal and of about human size.  it was impossible to say more otherthan they did not move like the giant insect creatures i have seenclearly under the influence of stropharia mushrooms.  there was a directawareness of an overwhelmingly powerful and knowledgable *presence*!  itwas neither frightening, nor encouraging.  it was just mentally there.  athought came, unbidden, into my head.  i realized that i was viewing godcentral.  the central panel i saw was the control panel for the entireuniverse.the vision was fleeting and dissolved into a vision of much greaterclarity.  a gaggle of elf-like creatures in standard issue irish elfcostumes, complete with hats, looking like they had stepped out of ahallmark cards happy saint patricks day display, were doing strangethings with strange objects that seemed to be a weird hybrid betweencrystals and machines.this vision was also fleeting, and it dissolved into a visual patternunlike that experienced by me on any other psychedelic or combination ofpsychedelics.  the visuals were interlocking sinusoidal patterns arrangedin a japanese chrysanthemum pattern that filled my entire visual field.the pattern was ever-changing and the colors of the individual patternschanged independently of the underlyng pattern.  the colors were intenseand came in a magnificent variety of colors: metallics, monochromes,pastels, each flickering in and out of existence as if obeying someundetected ordering principle.an idea came into my head that i was seeing the true universe oruniverse as it really exists.  that is to say, i was seeing *directly*the vibrations of every particles in the universe that i was somehow incontact with.  i was directly seeing the universe withough orderingit into an arbitrary reality tunnel -- i.e., perceived solid, objectivereality.  the visual pattern seemed to be a sort of m-dimensionallissajous curve formed by the intersection of i with the shock wave ofspace-time causality.the carrier wave remained strong throughout the experience.  whiledefinitely the same type of phenomena as the carrier wave heard under theinfluence of psilocybin mushrooms, the dmt carrier wave was *much* louderthan even the loud carrier wave heard under the influence of ten grams ofvery potent, dried stropharia mushrooms.  also, by comparison to themushroom experience, the carrier wave sounded as a purer tone -- i.e.,the sinusoidal component dominated the buzzng component.  my throat wastoo sore from the harsh smoke and the control of my breathing washindered by the intensity of the expereince, so i was unable to sing oreven generate a solid tone, to attempt audio driving of the visuals.the overwhelming sense of a *presence* did not disappear when the visionchanged to visual patterns, but remained an almost palpable entity as lonas the visuals remained intense.  i never felt the foreboding -- letalone the direct challenges -- i have felt under the influence ofstropharia mushrooms whenever the feeling of contact with the presencehas been strong.  the presence was just there and *very* powerful.  ifelt that i had glimpsed whiteheads god.the period of intense visuals lasted about eight minutes.  the sideeffects remained unpleasant, but easily ignorable.  the dmt left meeuphoric and very bemused for about an hour.definitely far out and very impressive!-------------------------------------------------->>> 	After reading the 'Time and Mind' article kindly typed in by Bob> 	I am intrigued to hear more about DMT, I was always under> 	the impression that LSD-25 was the strongest hallucinogen available> 	but even under the influence (of some pure liquid) it has always been> 	the real world around me that was distorted in some way and not some> 	fantasy land (although you could imagine it to be a fantasy land, the> 	very fact that you are conciously imagining it to be real is constantly> 	reminding you that its not.)>> 	So is DMT that superior an hallucinogenic?There are three issues here which are a little confused:1) strength in the sense of effective dose,2) strength in terms of subjective intensity,3) being a superior hallucinogen in some subjective sense.Comparing DMT and LSD, the first is easy.The effective dose of LSD is around 100 ug, of DMT is around 60 mg,so in this sense, LSD is a much stronger hallucinogen.In terms of intensity, they are difficult to compare. Part of the intensityof DMT stems from the fact that the onset is virtually instantaneous;one is taken from feeling normal to the peak of the trip in the spaceof a few seconds, and this can be totally disorienting and frightening.DMT does not have the euphoria of LSD, in fact it can be quiteuncomfortable. Also, the smoking of DMT is quite unpleasant comparedwith eating some small object. The types of hallucinations experiencedwithin the peak of the DMT trip differ markedly from those in the peakof the LSD trip. This difference is very hard to describe, althoughone might contrast the dripping flowing colourful experience of LSDwith the DMT visuals in which everything becomes super sharp to thepoint of being ripped into fragments, like placing a photo in a blender.There is some colour enhancement, but it is more like lightning-boltsof colour rather than flowing ripples of colour, and colours maybe actually entirely changed and several multiple images seen at once.The 20-30 minute come-down of DMT is similar in experience and intensityto a small dose of LSD, however one is likely to be too shattered bythe initial peak to worry about this much. The account Bob posted ishighly subjective and metaphorical (as is this one, I suppose) and Idoubt that many people would experience DMT in the way described there.However, extending the duration of DMT by the use of monoamineoxidaseinhibitors (Ayahuasca,Yage,etc.) is supposed to be a very intenseexperience and could give one time to become more involved in it.It is possible to lose all contact with the senses and the worldbriefly while on DMT, as it is, e.g. from a combination of nitrousoxide and LSD. Also, psiloc(yb)in seems to have some similarity toDMT whilst retaining similarity to LSD, in that during the psilocinexperience one can be transported into a different reality, althoughone which is still definitely based sensually on this one, andnot be able to remember or understand everday reality.Other hallucinogenic experiences, e.g. the delerium caused byanti-cholinergics, might be still more intense than DMT in termsof being completely removed from traditional reality, but I don'tthink anyone would recommend experimenting with these dangeroussubstances.In terms of which is the superior hallucinogen, it depends on yourtaste. DMT is very interesting and extremely intense, but notnecessarily pleasant. LSD has more potential for pure recreation.Most people would probably prefer LSD as a recreational hallucinogen,and it would be ill-advised for someone who was not very familiarwith coping with the intensity of LSD to be thrust into theintensity of DMT. On the other hand, if you don't like DMT, you onlyhave to hang on for a few minutes, whereas if you don't like LSDyou have to hang on for several hours.This is, of course, apart from the dosage, all subjective...............................> Does anyone know if 4-MeO-DMT is pharmacologically active?> This would be the methyl analog of psilocin, 4-OH-DMT of> mushroom fame.>> Shulgin, among others, has made a number of tryptamine analogs.> This one seems like a logical target but I have never seen it> in the literature.  Does anyone have any information on this> compound?Here is the best I can do to answer this:Extract from Hallucinogens: Neurochemical, Behavioral, & ClinicalPerspectives, edited by B.L. Jacobs, Raven Press, New York (c) 1984Medicinal Chemistry and Structure-Activity relationships of Hallucinogens- David E. Nichols & Richard A. Glennonp. 124"4-methoxy-N,N-dimethyl tryptamine (4-OMeDMT) has been examined only inanimal studies and has shown behavioral activity roughly comparable tothat of DMT (65,236,238). It has also produced discriminative stimuluseffects similar to those of 5-OMeDMT with a potency somewhat less thanthat of DMT but greater than that of either 6-OMeDMT or 7-MeODMT (93).In drug discrimination studies using DOM as the training drug, 4-OMeDMTwas more active than DMT but less active than DET (91).References:(65)Gressner, P.K., Godse D.D., Krull,A.H.,& Mc Mullen, J.M. (1968)Structure-activity relationships among 5-MeODMT, 4-HODMT (psilocin)and other substituted tryptamines. (life Sci., 7:267-277)(91)Glennon, R.A., Young, R., Jacyno, J.M., Slusher, R., and Rosecrans,J.A.(1983)DOM stimulus generation to LSD and other hallucinogenic indolealkamines.Eur.J.Pharmacol.,86:453-459(93)Glennon,R.A.,Young,R.,Rosecrans,J.A.,& Kallman,M.J (1980): Hallucinogenicagents as discriminative stimuli: Correlation with serotonin receptoraffinities. Psychopharmacology, 68:155-158.(236) Ulyeno, E.T. (1969): Alteration of a learned response of thesquirrel monkey by hallucinogens. Int.J.Neuropharmacol. 8:245-253.(238) Ulyeno, E.T. (1971): relative potency of amphetamine derrivatives.Psychopharmacologia 19:381-387..............................Check out these. Looks like you already have the articles aboutAcacias from the Australian Journal of Chemistry.-----------------------------------------------J. Agriculture and Food Chemistry 35:361-365(1987) Thompson, A. C., Nicollier, G. F. and Pope, D. F."Indolealkylamines of Desmanthus illinoensis and their growthinhibition activity."-----------------------------------------------Smith, T. A. (1977) "Tryptamine and related compounds in plants."Phytochemistry 16:171-175.An excellent short guide to the literature for manytryptamine-containing plants.-----------------------------------------------I'm having trouble uploading to this Usenet node, otherwise I'd sendyou excerpts from several related articles.------------------------------marsthom@qed.cts.com (Mark Thompson)  or  qed!marsthomThe QED BBS -- (310)420-9327..............................>Can anyone tell me about this drug (IT-290)?  Especially if it really exists.IT-290 is alfa-methyltryptamine. It's an orally active psychedelictryptamine, dosage about 30 mg...............................Article 38451 of alt.drugs:Newsgroups: alt.drugsPath: ucivax!news.service.uci.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!staff.tc.umn.edu!mtymp15From: mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton)Subject: New posting: DMT FAQMessage-ID: <mtymp15.721857319@staff.tc.umn.edu>Summary: from LearyBot@ircSender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)Nntp-Posting-Host: staff.tc.umn.eduOrganization: University of MinnesotaDate: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:55:19 GMTLines: 154                         How To Make DMTDMT stands for N,N-dimethyltryptamine. It is a semisyntheticcompound similar to psilocin(the hallucinogenic substance inpsilocybin) ins structure. The most common method of ingestion issmoking. Soaked parsley leaves are the usual method of ingestionalthough persons have dipped marijuana in it and said theexperience was fantastic. The following recipe can be performed inthe kitchen.Recipe for DMT:Mix thoroughly and dissolve 25 grams of indole with a pound ofdry ethyl ether in a 2000 ml flask(2 quart jar.)2. Take an ice tray and fill with chipped or shaved ice. Coolsolution for about 35 minutes until it reaches 0 degrees C. At thesame time cool 50 ml dry oxalychloride to about 5 degrees below 0C. in the same ice tray.3. VERY slowly add the oxalychloride solution to the indolesolution. These two chemicals are highly reactive. Avoid boilingover, contact with skin, and fumes.4. Wait until all the bubbling has died down, then add a fewhandfuls of table salt to the ice tray, to cool the solutionfurther. Label the solution "solution 1" and put it in thefreezer.5. Cool 100 ml. of dry ethyl ether in a 500 ml. flask to 0 degreesC. in a salted ice tray. At the same time cool an unopened bottleof dimethylamine to 0 degrees C. in the same ice bath.6. Open the seal of the dimethylamine bottle and slowly pour asteady stream into the ether. Label "solution 2."7. Very slowly and carefully add solution "1" and "2" together.8. Now take the mixed solutions from the ice tray and bring up toroom temperature stirring the solution all the time. You should beleft with a solution that is almost clear. If it is still murky,continue stirring until it becomes as clear as possible.9. Now filter the solution to seperate the precipitate by suction.                       <---Solution and Precipitate        ------------        \          /<---Funnel  /    / <-- Rubber hose to         \        /     and    /    /      Vacuum source          \      /      Filter/____/     \*****\    /*************{   }*****/ <--- Two hole      \****{    }*************{   }****/       rubber stopper       \   {    }             {   } <-/--- Glass Tube        \  {    }             {   }  /         | {    }             {   } |         |                          |         |                          |         |                          |         |                          |         |__________________________|                  Figure A.10. Refilter with suction after pouring technical ether over theprecipitate.11. Repeat filtering once more with ether, then twice with water.12. Let this substance dry on a plastic or china plate.(do not usemetal) After drying, a solid material will be formed. Takeparticles and place them in an 800 ml beaker.13. Mix 100 ml. benzene with 100 ml. methyl alcohol. After thismixture has been stirred, cover solid particles from step 12 withabout 1/2 inch of the solution and heat the beaker in water untilall solid material had dissolved. Add more solvent ifnecessary.(Note: Do not place beaker in water bath directly overthe flame.)14. After all solid material has dissolved, remove beaker from theheat, and allow to cool. As it cools, small needle-shaped crystalswill appear. When this happens, try to pour off as much solvent aspossible without disturbing the crystals.15. Place crystals in a 1000 ml flask and dissolve intetrahydrofurane.(Use only as much as absolutely necessary.) Labelthis solution "A".16. Slowly mix 200 ml. tetrahydrofurane and 20 grams lithiumaluminum hydride in a 500 ml flask, and label it solution "B".(By the way, lithuim aluminum hydride ignites on contact withmoisture. Protect eyes and hands.)17. Mix solutions "A" and "B" slowly, stirring constantly.18. Prepare a water bath and heat solution for three hours,stirring for four minutes every half hour. When not stirring, makesure to use aspirator tube.                             /  / <--- Rubber Tubing                             ---                         \**{   }**/<---- One hole rubber stopper                         /**{   }**\      and glass tubing                        /   {   }   \                       /    {   }    \                       :             :                       :             :                       :             :      \ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:_____________:~/       \______________________________/           Heat source           Figure B.Place Figure B. flask at a higher level than Figure A. flask. Runtube from Figure B. flask down to left side of figure A. flask,replacing funnel with glass tubing. Disconnect right side tubefrom vacuum source. This will be used as the aspirator tube.19. When this is completed, allow the flask to remain at roomtemperature for about 20 minutes. Then place in salted ice bath,and cool to 0 degrees C. Add a small amount of chilled methanol,stirring gently until solution appears murky.20. Filter this murky solution through a paper filter in a funnel,and collect the filtered liquid in a flask.21. Add 100 ml. of tetrahydrofuran through the filter and collectin the same flask. Now heat the solution in a water bath untilmost of the tetrahydrofuran is evaporated and a gooey substanceremains.22. Place 