t!news.infi.net!h-khaki.richmond.infi.net!user Subject: rec.arts.bodyart: Piercing FAQ 10B--Personal Experiences - Genital Piercings Date: 4 Jan 1996 01:24:38 GMT Expires: Mon, 05 February 1996 07:00:00 GMT Archive-name: bodyart/piercing-faq/personal-experiences/partB Posting-frequency: Monthly Summary: This posting contains information about body piercing. Anyone interested in the subject and/or wishes to read/post to rec.arts.bodyart should read the Piercing FAQ first. The rec.arts.bodyart Piercing FAQ is broken up into 19 parts: 1--Introduction 2A--Jewelry Materials 2B--Jewelry Sizes & Designs 2C--Unisex Piercings & Their Suggested Jewelry 2D--Genital Piercings & Their Suggested Jewelry 3--Getting A New Piercing 4A--Professional Organizations, Instruction, Misc. Suppliers 4B--Professional Piercers & Jewelry Manufacturers - United States - A-F 4C--Professional Piercers & Jewelry Manufacturers - United States - G-M 4D--Professional Piercers & Jewelry Manufacturers - United States - N-Z 4E--Professional Piercers & Jewelry Manufacturers - beyond the United States 5--Care Of New Piercings 6--Problems And Hazards 7--Healed Piercings 8--Misc. Info 9--Resource List 10A -- Personal Experiences - Facial & Unisex Piercings 10B -- Personal Experiences - Genital Piercings 10C -- Personal Experiences - Genital Piercings Cont'd This section includes: 10B -- Personal Experiences - Genital Piercings 10B.1 Triangle Piercing 10B.2 Vertical Clitoral Hood Piercing 10b.3 Horizontal Clitoral Hood Piercing 10B.4 Ampallang Piercing #1 10B.5 Foreskin & Septum Piercings 10B.6 Frenum Placement with Intact Foreskin 10B.7 Ampallang Piercing #2 10B.8 Ampallang Piercing #3 All texts written and (c) 1995 by Anne Greenblatt unless otherwise noted. Please see Part 1 of the FAQ for information regarding copyright and dissemination of the FAQ. DISCLAIMER! The Piercing FAQ contains material sexually explicit in nature. 10B PIERCING PERSONAL EXPERIENCES - GENITAL PIERCINGS ================================================= 10B.1 Triangle Piercing by Susan Well....I got mine done by Raelyn Gallina in mid-February. I was expecting a very painful experience; a lot of people had told me it would be much more intense than my clit hood piercing. Actually, it wasn't. I don't know if it was my (mostly) lack of nerves this time - the clit hood was my first non-earlobe piercing and I was scared to death - or that I was more psychologically ready for this one or what, but it was not nearly as bad. Bled like crazy, though. I think happy thoughts about blood - keeping the wound clean and all that. It was swollen at first, but the swelling went down in about a day. It was a bit interesting to sit and cross my legs for about two days, and then it itched for a day or so. After that, I've hardly noticed it except occasionally when I manage to get it twisted a little in sitting or something. At six weeks, I would call it fully healed, and it has been almost no trouble. I cleaned it first twice a day for about a week then once daily with Triadine (generic Betadine). I am wearing a surgical steel captive bead ring in it. Actually, I shouldn't say I've hardly noticed it. Rather I have hardly noticed any *pain* from it. For the first few days it was so intensely *pleasurable* I had trouble concentrating - it was a perfect, intimate touch in *exactly* the right place, if you know what I mean.... *grin* Thankfully, that hypersensitivity has faded a bit. But I still have only to think about it to be able to feel like someone has placed one exquisitely delicate finger, just so... my, this is distracting to write.... :) I'm delighted with the piercing, and recommend it highly to everyone who has the right anatomy for it (not every woman has enough flesh for this one, don't get your heart set on it until you are sure it can be done). It also goes beautifully with the clit hood piercing, which is also horizontal with a matching ring. They sort of nest around my clit. I am thinking of getting another clit hood piercing above the existing one, so that I will have a set of three rings in a row. 10B.2 Vertical Clitoral Hood Piercing by Erika Ferguson Piercing performed by Morganna at Inkporium Tattoos in Lansing, Michigan. In the summer of 94 I had my intro into below the neck piercing with the ever popular navel ring. I wanted another piercing before I was even off of the table and I had a nipple piercing about a month later. About that same time I was exposed to the benefits of genital piercings through conversations with my piercer but was still a little skitish. I had a second nipple pierced and began stretching my ears, all the while trying to prepare myself for a genital piercing. Most of my concerns centered around exposing myself to the piercer, I felt uncomfortable with the idea even with the piercer being female because of severe scarring on my inner thighs and outer labia from childhood surgery. We began to discuss the piercing and I originally wanted a clitoral piering but the piercer felt uncomfortable so we settled on a vertical clithood piercing low down towards the glans, which is well exposed. I was finally settled on doing it and got up the nerve to tell her about the scars, she just shrugged and said it made no difference, which took a weight off of me. The piercing itself was done with a 12 gauge needle and receiving tube as my hood is very loose. I was very nervous and shaky before the piercing and I found the cleaning painfull as the glans is very very sensitive. It felt a little strange to have the recieving tube directly on my clit so I held very still , soon I felt a very intense sharp pain but I barely had time to suck in my breath before it was over. She instilled a 12 gauge 5/8 SSS captive bead hoop and sent me on my way with strict care instructions echoing in my head . I found that the rolling of my wheelchair down the sidewalk was a whole new experience, every bump in the sidewalk an interesting tickle. My healing time was suprisingly rapid with one day of light bleeding, one day of itching and two days of plasma secretion before I was completly healed. A pleasent change compared to months of fighting with a navel and trangus. Its been a few months now and the sensation is still nice but alittlte to mild so Im getting bored. I plan to instill an 8 gauge 3\8 or 1\2 inch barbell to heighten the sensation some more. I think I will enjoy the barbell more because I tend to get caught up in the hoop so I play a little more gingerly than Id like. Despite my recent complants, Id still rate this as my favorite piercing , well worth the two seconds of pain. 10B.3 Horizontal Clitoral Hood Piercing by Beth Young (CCBeth@showme.missouri.edu) 10 Days ago I decided to get a clit hood pierce. I had been thinking about it for several months but hadn't quite got up the nerve to do it (it is my first non-ear pierce). Around Thanksgiving, I went to one (of two) piercing places to talk to the piercer and test his knowledge of piercing. I didn't want to be pierced by somebody that knew less than me. And while I will admit I don't know alot, after reading the FAQs and talking/listening to people on the R.A.B, I knew what questions to ask and what kinda of answers I should get. So, I talked to Jay for about 30 mintues that time and went back to talk to him 2 other times before I decided to just DO IT. I made the appointment for a Saturday afternoon. I wasn't really nervous when I got to the shop but then I had to wait. Jay was working on a tattoo and another girl was waiting to get her tongue pierced. So, I waited and waited and then waited some more. That was the hard part. The longer I sat there, the more nervous I got. Michelle, Jay's assistant, came out to talk to me. She told me what to expect and gave me the cleaning instructions. After an hour of waiting, it was my turn. Jay set up the privacy screen and then started telling me what he was doing to as he set up the piercing station. We talked about the jewerly and how the piercing will stretch some with normal walking and that I might want to get a larger guage ring after the pierce was healed. After the station was prepared, he stopped and took the time to tell me what he was going to be doing to insure of the proper placement of ring and that the placement would take longer than the actual piercing. Then he smiled and said "drop 'em". *deep breath* and I was ready to get pierced. Jay cleaned the piercing site and then measured and marked the piercing site and then clamped on the forceps. (This sounds easy but it did take the most time!) Then Jay said to take a deep breath and let it out, Deep breath and exhale, Deep breath and that was when he pushed the needle thru. I kinda sucked in my breath and then it was done. In the time it took for me to take that deep breath, it was over. I can't say that it hurt, there was a slight sting and some pressure and then nothing. I could feel the needle and I could definatly feel the ring sliding thru. It was great! The cleaning instuctions were easy, use anti-bacterial soap to clean the ring/piercing site 2-3 times a day and use Neosporine (sp?) on it once a day for the first 3-4 days. It bled a little that night after I had got home and a little the next day. I just cleaned the ring several times to remove the blood. I haven't had any problems with it. I tried wearing jeans about 4 days after the piercing and it made it tender so I went back to wearing sweats/ stretch pants or dresses. I am wearing jeans today and it isn't causing the problems that it did last week. I know it isn't healed completely but it isn't as tender as it was. :) I would do it again in a heartbeat! :) 10B.4 Ampallang Piercing by Fred Heald (justfred@netcom.com), edited by Anne Greenblatt So I happened to be in New Orleans for the first time this weekend, and I was having a great time wandering around the place, and on Sunday I was in the Quarter checking out a thrash clothing store and noticed a poster advertising Body Piercing, Wings of Desire, Elaine "Angle" Binnie; I thought, "Oh, cool, I've heard a lot about her on rab." I decided to wander over. Her shop is located on the second floor of another thrash clothing store. It's a cool place, not terribly crowded like Gauntlet seems to be whenever I stop by (of course, crowded with people with great bodyart!). The woman who assisted me, another Elaine, was very cool (and is occassionally online, "Hello!"). I looked at a few pieces of jewelry and started wondering what had made me come in, and I realized maybe it was an indication that I should go ahead and get the Ampallang I've been considering for the last two years. I was concerned that I might not be able to get an appointment, but Elaine 2 said that they could probably fit me in in about an hour. Meanwhile, another customer offered that ampallang's hea quite quickly and don't hurt excruciatingly afterwards, and that I should have no problem going to work the next day. I thought it over as I perused an issue of PFIQ that discussed the procedure. "Angel" came over and chatted with me about the procedure and healing regimin; she was very nice and made me feel comfortable. I decided to go for it. Release forms were signed, money exchanged. Elanie 2 asked if she could watch; I replied, "No problem." In about 10 minutes t"Angel" was ready ("Hey - you told me I was going to get to wait an hour!"). We adjourned to the front alcove, where I dropped my drawers and climbed up onto the table. I decided I would feel more comfortable without my shirt - somehow being naked felt somewhat less embarrassing in a clinical setting. "Angel" marked the piercing's entrance and exit holes, further back than I expected but correct I see now. I tried to clear my mind. "Angel" decided against using clamps. I found myself surprisingly lacking in nervousness, and the thought of the pain really didn't scare me at first, but then when she told me to take deep breaths ("When you exhale I'll go ahead with it."), there was that moment of raw panic and I thought, "I can stop this right now," but I didn't, and exhaled. The piercing took about 2 seconds or so. I could feel the needle passing through, a very strange sensation. The jewelry insertion was hardly noticeable. When the procedure was done I saw that I was bleeding quite a bit. She wrapped me up in tissue and a rubber glove. She detailed the recommended cleaning regimine - twice a day, soak, push back and forth with diluted soap, rinse, continue for up to six months and don't touch it with dirty hands! No swimming AT ALL. Sporting the rubber glove I reclothed and thanked "Angel" and Elaine 2 numerous times, and wandered off...I was a bit wasted the rest of the day, though it didn't really seem like a rush or high, just a stuporous disbelief. I washed the piercing as prescribed, and changed gloves - I was provided with a good supply. I also picked up some unlubricated condoms which worked well in lieu of the glove the next day at work, where I walked gingerly but was generally ok. I bled a fair amount the first night, less the second day, and on day 4 did not require a dressing. Now I find that it actually hurt less the day it was performed than it does when I occassionally sit down wrong or get an erection, which wakes me up in the middle of the night. I cannot sleep on my stomach yet, and I do wake up at night to adjust the barbell position. The barbell is about 1/8" to 1/4" longer than the width of the piercing most of the time. It is especially painful when it pulls to one side, but I can tell it is steadily getting better. I would say (and "Angel" suggested this reaction is common) that the Ampallang was and continues to be less painful than either nipple piercing. The piercing took longer but it hurt less. I wonder how much increased sensation I will get (the nipple piercings are wonderful in this respect!). I'm not really worried about WHEN I'll be able to use it again, since I haven't really used it in a number of years... Though I'll probably immediately meet some woman and fall madly in lust and everything will be fine until...I know that one of the women I have a crush on st the moment finds the idea intriguing - we happened to discuss the matter impersonally a while back; she was disagreeing with a woman who said it was "Gross" ("No, I heard it can feel quite good.") And yes, I have since proven that the equiptment is still functional! 10B.5 Foreskin and Septum Piercings by Pierre Honeyman (pierre@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca), edited by Anne Greenblatt I decided to get my foreskin pierced for several reasons. I was considering an Ampallang, but I thought my foreskin might get in the way, so I decided to pierce it instead. I had seen drawings of several such piercings and I thought it could be an attractive piercing in itself. I was never worried about the pain factor as I didn't find the area that pain- responsive. Once my mind was made up I proceeded to find a piercer here in Edmonton. I called a few friends and got some suggestions, and I decided on an initial visit to Larry at Joeyy and Bear. I had heard of good experiences with him. During the initial appointment we discussed the piercings I wanted (septum and two foreskin). When we discussed the foreskin piercings, Larry brought up aspects I had not thought of - for instance, I would have to plan the piercings to avoid any veins visible with a flashlight. We made an appointment for the piercings, and I went home to look for suitable piercing locations. I studied the areas several times over the next week, and marked the locations the night before I was to get pierced. I wasn't too nervous until I arrived at the shop, and then I became very excited. Larry and I talked for a little bit, and he described the procedures completely. Relaxing music played in the background which established a sothing atmosphere. I decided to get the foreskin piercings first, since I thought they would hurt the least. I showed him where I wanted the piercings and he checked the areas himself. He showed me the equiptment and explined the procedure again, as well as how he wanted me to breathe throughout the procedure. He had me take a few deep breaths at a speed he liked and I found the method very relaxing and helpful in controlling the pain. He clamped the area and I resumed breathing, and after a few breaths he said he would push the needle after the next breath. I felt the him press the needle against my skin as I inhaled, and then he pushed the needle through as I exhaled. I looked down at the needle - I had felt no pain at all, and was very surprised. He inserted the ring without closing it, until he had performed the second piercing. The second piercing hurt, but it was still nothing, really. It hurts more to play with a fiesty cat than get my foreskin pierced! Once both rings were in he adjusted the jewelry and popped in the beads. The endorphins kicked in and I was surprised since I hadn't felt them when I had my nipple pierced previously. I got fressed, shaking, and sat down again to ready myself for the septum piercing. Larry asked me if I felt well enough to continue, and I replied affirmatively. He discussed the septum piercing procedure, and said he prefers to perform them with the customer lying down. He said that I may feel to vulnerable laying down, and that he could pierce me sitting up if I prefered. I told him to go ahead as he prefered, and he reclined the chair until I was flat with my head towards him, upside down. It was unnerving, but not overwhelmingly so. I was a bit afraid about the piercing since I thought it would hurt a lot. He prepared the equiptment and had me start breathing as before. He placed a needle receiving tube on one side and the needle on the other. At this point we were briefly interupted by a friend of mine who had stopped by. I asked him to wait in the foyer and we got back to the business at hand. Again, there was no pain and I was very surprised. After the ring was in place, Larry instructed me on healing and aftercare. He recommended Baciguent ointment and Hibitane for cleansing. Healing the foreskin piercings was no problem at all. Initially, cleaning the inside of my foreskin was dificult due to the swelling. The swelling was gone after about a week. I discovered that during healing briefs were much more comfortable than my usual boxer shorts. The briefs held my penis more securely and there wasless bouncing against my leg. To clean the foreskin piercings, I first cleaned away the dried discharge (crusties) with a wet cotton swab. Then I washed both sides of the piercings with diluted Hibitane (1/3 to 2/3 water), again using a cotton swab. I left the solution in place for three minutes, then rinsed thoroughly. After rinsing I applied Baciguent ointment, which I used for 10 days, 5 days on, 2 days off, 5 days on. The Hibitane I used for 2 weeks. It's been 6 weeks now and I haven't had any discharge for 2 weeks. I can rotate the rings at any time. So far I haven't encountered any difficulties with my piercings. I have not had sex yet so I cannot say how they will affect sex. I am able to retract my foreskin without problems and the rings fold back nicely against my penis. I was able to masturbate after 2 days. I enjoy my foreskin rings for the amusement value. I can make them jingle when I'm naked and I like the sound; naturally I want bells now! For me they are definitely serving the purpose I got them for, which is aesthtic. I don't know if there will be other benefits of the rings since they don't really add to sensation, although I have received some very interesting suggestions that I will follow up on later. They'll make a handy leash for B/D scenes, I'm sure! 10B.6 Frenum with Intact Foreskin by Clive Neil (cgneil@amoco.com) I think there ough to be a paragraph in the FAQ about frenums with a foreskin. Which other pierce offers such a difficult task in placement. A foreskin can change so much between flacid and erect. I can't think of another pierce where the skin involved can move so much. I can fill you in on a few things. I had a frenum two weeks ago (and three weeks ago - more later). I am also 100% intact (uncircumstised). My piercing is about 3/4" down from the head about level with the head on the top so I can put on a loop after healing. I had it done 12ga with a 5/8" barbell. Before the piercing my foreskin would be in a variety of positions from not covering the head at all to most of the way over. This hasn't changed. Most of the time the barbell is on the outside sort of anchoring the foreskin back but sometimes I have to go in and find it. I'd prefer it to stay exposed for air circulation but it is fun to unroll my foreskin to look for the barbell. Cleaning is easy and was completely painless for me from day one. Since the skin is loose I can push the barbell one way or the other to expose both side of the bar for cleaning. So far not too many crusties. So in fact I think the only disadvantage in having a foreskin and a frenum is in positioning it. How do you know where the flacid skin will be whilst erect. I wanted the piercing to be centred and horizontal whilst erect. I had thought about this before going to get it done. When I went in I spent quite a while with my piercer trying to position it. We pulled the skin moved the ink dots and agreed on a position. I was still a bit dubious but whatthehell. Afterwards I went home and checked the erect position. As I feared it was off to one side and squewed. I went out to see a band and thought about it some more. I decided that it would probably bug me for years so took it out. A week later I did some homework. I got hard and drew a grid on my cock. One line down the exact centre, one each side on the egdes of the front ridge and a couple of horizontal lines. Then I went down to the piercer and we tried again. More endorphines etc - good value - two hits - one pierce - I now understand play piercing. The second time was perfect. It is exactly where I wanted it to be. The initial healing has been good. No pain, easy cleaning and not much redness. Unfortunately my girldfriend is about 6750 miles away so I haven't fully tested it yet but on a couple of solo missions it felt great. 10B.7 Ampallang Piercing #2 by Adam (amabee@utias.utoronto.ca) Thanks to everyone who gave me advice last week about choosing between the frenum, ampallang, and PA. Of course, I ignored most of your advice and went for the amp :-) I had it done by Tee, on Church St. in Toronto. I have nothing to say about her but good.. I managed to convince VioSpazz, with whom I have been talking in e-mail for a couple of months, to lend me some moral support. Actually, it didn't take much persuading. We had never met in Real Life before, so meeting for the first time at a piercer's, and dropping my pants within a half hour, was a bit weird. It worked out well, though. She was wonderfully supportive, distracted me with conversation when I needed to be, and held my hand the whole time. :) Tee spent quite a while making absolutely sure that I wanted an amp, because this is my first metal (case of beer! - no, wait a minute, wrong newsgroup) - I've never even had an ear pierced. When she was convinced, I chose the size of balls for my barbell, and we got down to business. She cleaned things like crazy, spent quite a bit of time locating the cavernosa and double-checking, then marked the placement for me to check. She doesn't like to pierce through the urethra, because of the chance of scar tissue bridging across it, so she marked a little higher up than I had pictured. No matter, it still looked good, so... on with the forceps. At that point, your faithful narrator decided it was time to stop watching. It stung a little when she moved the clamps a couple of times, which made me flinch a bit, making me wonder how much I'd jump when I was actually pierced. She relaxed the clamps a bit for me, them told me she was almost done. Yeah, right, I was thinking. Everything but the *real* pain. She asked if I was ready, and if I wanted any warning. I made sure I had only two of Vio's fingers in my hand, so that I wouldn't break anything, and kinda hum'd and ha'd about getting warned. Tee said, nah, you don't need any warning. Then... Yow. Two or three seconds of yow. I'm afraid I made a bit of a racket before I got control of my vocal cords. The pain was about as intense as the time I got stitches in my hand, but, fortunately, it didn't last nearly as long this time. And putting the barbell in just stung a bit. Eventually, I psyched myself up enough to look. Wow. It looked pretty cool, even though I was in denial about actually having metal through my penis. Tee cleaned everything up, wrapped me up, and taped a glove over everything to contain the blood. Then I realized that the endorphin rush that everyone talks about just wasn't materializing. Not that I needed it - things were just smarting at that point - but it might have been fun to be more than just a bit shaky (and feeling obnoxious). So it went pretty well. I even felt up to driving home afterwards (with a manual transmission!), it hurt so little. Just a small nagging reminder of what I'd just had done to such an... important organ :) It's just as well that I got pierced below the waist, because despite not intending to let any of my friends know (they'd FREAK), I have this insane urge to show it off. I'm kinda proud of my metal. So far, though, only three people other than myself have seen it. Anyway, hats off to Tee for professionalism, bedside manner, and concern for my well-being. And, certainly, a *huge* hug goes out to VioSpazz, without whose support I don't think I could have either chosen to do this, or actually gone through with it. 10B.8 Ampallang Piercing #3 by Rev. Drew at Perforations Piercing Studio (perforat@access.digex.net) For my 24th birthday, I decided that I would give myself a piercing that I had mulled over for well over a year, and decided that I should go ahead with it. This was 11 months ago, so my piercing is approaching its one year anniversary. Tashi and I drove for four hours from DC up to Pleasurable Piercings, in Hawthorne, NJ, because I knew Wild Bill and had been doing business with him for several years. We hung out and jawed around with Bill and Judy and Adam for a while, while I relaxed from the 4 hour drive. Eventually we went into his piercing room, and I dropped my pants. We examined my penis, and Bill made some markings. I didn't like them too much, so I (somehow) managed to get an erection, and from there we made new markings, and then waited a bit until my dick had disgorged its supply of blood. Next we discussed jewelry...I wanted a 12Ga 1 3/8" barbell, but Bill had none in stock, se we settled for a 12Ga 1 1/4". (A mistake, as will become apparent later...) Tashi sorta leaned over me to hold me down, and Bill gave me a count. The next 4.5 seconds were some of the longest in my life. I felt like something was ripping my dick from the inside out. By the time I could ask "Is it through" because I had just felt something of a pop, It was done. I rested for several minutes, drinking a lemonade, and getting some colour back, before we inserted the jewelry. Bill took a 12Ga taper, and pushed out the needle with it, then pushed the taper out backwards with the jewelry. Screwed on the little bead, and wrapped up, because I was bleeding slightly. Hung out, enjoying the REALLY nice endorphin rush for a while, and finally headed back down to VA. I don't recommend a 4 hour drive with a fresh ampallang...its not all that fun. This was done on a Wednesday night, July 6. My birthday was on the 8th. Saturday, the 9th, I was feeling very horny, and had already masturbated once (not to orgasm), and I had woken up with an erection, so I asked my partner if she'd be willing to just lie there and see how it felt. She was more than willing to do so, having expected 1 to 2 months without sex. It felt like I was having sex with a virgin to beat all virgins...but I did it without too much discomfort...until I orgasmed. This was when we discovered that the 1 1/4" was indeed too small to allow for the ballooning effect a penis has during orgasm, and I screamed in pain. Quickly we ordered a 1 3/8" barbell, and as soon as it came I swapped them out. Over the first 2 weeks, I would spontaneously bleed, for no apparent reason (ruined 3 pairs of underwear :) ). It took me about 3 months to be back to full speed during sex, but I removed my frenum and PA (the frenum closed; the PA I can still put jewelry in) because the ampallang was really the piercing I was looking for. Down the road I am considering having another ampallang done, urethrally this time, so that I have two parallel. But that'll be a while. This first is still not fully healed, and I still want to enjoy it more. -- * Ardvark * Anne Greenblatt Piercing FAQ Manager for rec.arts.bodyart Proprietor - Piercing Exquisite, Richmond, Va. COMING SOON IN THE NEW YEAR * THE WEBPAGE!